Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands)

07-29-2020 , 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Breezy Lovejoy
these guys are both so unlikable
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinivici9586
reality will set in and Daniel will do one of the following
1. say he's reconsidered giving Doug a platform
2. say he's focusing on the WSOP
3. make totally unreasonable demands
This. I’ll happily eat my words, because if this actually happens DN will get destroyed and it’d be glorious.
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:02 PM
every argument in poker should be solved by HU for RoLLz , this has potential to be so great if one of them rage tilts . obv probably gonna be dnegs. also i love how doug is so open about being a piece of **** and not wanting to donate money to charity. i respect that.
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry Urinstein
This. I’ll happily eat my words, because if this actually happens DN will get destroyed and it’d be glorious.
Even though unlikely, I would much rather see Doug get crushed....
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:07 PM
good move if they play for a charity
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:09 PM
Oh no boys. DN just said this is basically a dick measuring contest and he would prefer to measure dinks against Polk as he feels he has a massive edge in dink size.
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by washoe
good move if they play for a charity
Why?

I would rather see one of the take money off the other.....why always need to be some charity bs
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfbum983
Even though unlikely, I would much rather see Doug get crushed....
I'm only 4 more retirements before I seriously dislike him. I'll wait another year before this is an inevitability.
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wisdom*Genius = Me
Polk saying he'll show his hole cards on delay, throughout the whole challenge, if Negreanu agrees to do the same.

While this would be better for the viewing audience, it would give Polk an extra edge, because Polk and his (post session) team will do more analysis and make more adjustments than Negreanu and his.
OMG you just defamed Shorty by saying he sucks at poker in a sideways, invisible way!
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by washoe
hunl at a certain limit becomes somewhat of a crapshoot and is boring to watch. Dont know why they would move on the others turf. And online Daniel can't use his live edge.
25k hands is not a crapshoot
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood69er
i love how doug is so open about being a piece of **** and not wanting to donate money to charity. i respect that.
Agreed .... especially because I suspect Polk is actually generous when it comes to charity, just careful. And not seeking to benefit socially from that.

Shorty is the opposite imo: he wants credit as 'generous' but is probably as cheap as he thinks he can get away with being (hope I am wrong).
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:40 PM
Dnegs,

DM me if you want coaching from people who can beat Polk for 10bb/100
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:43 PM
Wow I never thought it would happen!!!!!1111

2020 is by far the best (recent) year for poker...
Imagine this match outshining the Phil Galfond Challenge... The only way out would be Phil Galfond vs Isildur1! PG PLEASE MAKE IT HAPPEN
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:44 PM
Man really regretting my decision to post that dildo in mouth gif reply to DNEGs that got me blocked!
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bukafax
Oh no boys. DN just said this is basically a dick measuring contest and he would prefer to measure dinks against Polk as he feels he has a massive edge in dink size.
I guess everyone knows that. We have all seen the "package" picture from Dan.
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 10:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by prudently
Dnegs,

DM me if you want coaching from people who can beat Polk for 10bb/100
Would like to see Daniel actually do something like this.
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 11:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lix8
2020 is by far the best (recent) year for poker...
That's gonna be a no for me, dawg. I'd trade being able to watch this grudge match for being able to play live MTTs without a biohazard suit in a heartbeat. But hey, at least this Polk/Negreanu thunderdome will give me something to sweat while I'm counting down the days until the fall live WSOP is officially cancelled.

Last edited by DogFace; 07-29-2020 at 11:18 PM.
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 11:10 PM
UPDATE: Joey Ingram is apparently out as a potential commentator for the challenge match. This possibility was proposed Wednesday by Twitter user @Tan976.

Daniel replied, "that would be a no lol" due to Joey's friendship with Doug. (Twitter post)

When pressed, Daniel repeated his concerns that Joey wouldn't provide unbiased commentary while acknowledging that Joey "has a right to be biased towards his friend." (Twitter post)
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 11:11 PM
Don't see any upside for D-negs. Win or lose, Polk still gonna troll.
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 11:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by djz
Would like to see Daniel actually do something like this.
it's the one way i see daniel winning. ofc pure speculation, but i wouldnt be surprised if doug doesnt get coaching despite no doubt being way behind the current top HUNL players (or even midstakes). would rather see doug win tho
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 11:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rmbxr9
You think 100K would watch poker online?
I’d set the over under on people who would spend $10 at 3,500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic
lol seriously. Do most of their videos even have 100k views?
This got me curious.

I don't have an upgraded SocialBlade account (nor do I need one) so I can't see some of the data, only the basic stuff. Here is the Tale of the Tape style comparison: https://socialblade.com/youtube/comp...20polk%20poker

As for the 100K goal, Doug Polk Poker has 14 videos with at least 1 million viewers, with the Antonius-Durrrr set-over-set episode leading the way at 2.3 million. His 50th most viewed video is the February 23, 2017 analysis of a flush-vs-flush hand at LATB: 535,773 views as of this post. I don't know the total number of videos with at least 100K but he averages about 219K per upload.

Negreanu's channel doesn't have quite the view numbers, but still well above the 100K threshold. His No. 1 video is the hand involving Sara Chafak's bluff against Ronnie Bardah on Shark Cage (1.74 million views), with "Poker Ranges Explained" and "Top 5 Reasons You're Losing At Poker" in second and third at around 1.6 milly each. His 50th most viewed was Day 48 of last year's WSOP VLOG series, in which he garnered about 156K in watches. Negreanu's average is about 117K among 350 uploads.

One thing that's interesting: Negreanu's estimated daily, monthly and yearly estimated earnings are pretty much twice that of Polk's. There are any number of factors for this, including the source country, the price of ads, the average watch time, etc.

It's quite possible Doug has had more videos demonetized because YouTube seems to be anti-poker, and his content shows much more actual play overall. Doug has far more views, but Negreanu has more subscribers (454K to 294K). Every creator is big on getting people to subscribe, and that's a good reason why. Finally, Negreanu's channel has been on the site since 2006, while Doug got on there ten years later, which means DNegs may simply have enjoyed more traffic in the pre-Adpocalypse days.

But I'm totally guessing on all of this.
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 11:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Jones
Don't see any upside for D-negs. Win or lose, Polk still gonna troll.
Purely from practice and improvement standpoint, playing 25k hands of HU against a former HU crusher would probably improve his HU game a lot. I see a potential benefit there and, if he happens to win, of course he can rub it in Polk's face from now until eternity.

The flipside is that Polk is going to roast him non-stop if he wins, but that was going to happen either way. Regardless of the outcome, if this match actually happens, I will be...

Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-29-2020 , 11:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilbury Twist
This got me curious.

I don't have an upgraded SocialBlade account (nor do I need one) so I can't see some of the data, only the basic stuff. Here is the Tale of the Tape style comparison: https://socialblade.com/youtube/comp...20polk%20poker

As for the 100K goal, Doug Polk Poker has 14 videos with at least 1 million viewers, with the Antonius-Durrrr set-over-set episode leading the way at 2.3 million. His 50th most viewed video is the February 23, 2017 analysis of a flush-vs-flush hand at LATB: 535,773 views as of this post. I don't know the total number of videos with at least 100K but he averages about 219K per upload.

Negreanu's channel doesn't have quite the view numbers, but still well above the 100K threshold. His No. 1 video is the hand involving Sara Chafak's bluff against Ronnie Bardah on Shark Cage (1.74 million views), with "Poker Ranges Explained" and "Top 5 Reasons You're Losing At Poker" in second and third at around 1.6 milly each. His 50th most viewed was Day 48 of last year's WSOP VLOG series, in which he garnered about 156K in watches. Negreanu's average is about 117K among 350 uploads.

One thing that's interesting: Negreanu's estimated daily, monthly and yearly estimated earnings are pretty much twice that of Polk's. There are any number of factors for this, including the source country, the price of ads, the average watch time, etc.

It's quite possible Doug has had more videos demonetized because YouTube seems to be anti-poker, and his content shows much more actual play overall. Doug has far more views, but Negreanu has more subscribers (454K to 294K). Every creator is big on getting people to subscribe, and that's a good reason why. Finally, Negreanu's channel has been on the site since 2006, while Doug got on there ten years later, which means DNegs may simply have enjoyed more traffic in the pre-Adpocalypse days.

But I'm totally guessing on all of this.
You realize live viewing of an event is vastly different than number of views on a video over time right? For one those aren't unique views. Averaging 117k views per video would not translate anywhere near to 100k viewers for a live streamed event.
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-30-2020 , 12:00 AM
Sick
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote
07-30-2020 , 12:23 AM
Can Daniel beat Doug Polk? What are the odds?
Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Quote

      
m