It doesn't make sense to when the pokershares odds are even money at 15 or whatever. That being said, if this really does start near the beginning of November I am very confident that Doug will have a 20+ bb edge

Doug must be near his top form by now.

I think he's better than he ever was before but maybe I'm way off. The game has evolved a lot in the last few years when he hasn't been playing but he's come back, embraced solvers, and put in a lot of work

Has he talked about embracing solvers anywhere? I missed this.

doug prob better than 95% of modern day regs hu

Maybe not on social media idk. But we've played multiple sessions and he's talked about playing a couple hrs a day and studying for the rest of it, and from simming a ton of hands we've played/he's played vs friends of mine, he's making very few 'mistakes'

Even when he was kinda on his way out, wasn't Polk binking the One Drop & 400k+ scores on stream?

Seems like he's been killing himself to improve the last few months whilst DNegs has been 1 tabling WSOP events. Of course you cant discount variance, but HU is a brutal format where its possible to absolutely obliterate someone

15 BBs/100 = $6K/100. For 12.5K hand, $6K * 125 = $750K.

That's pretty scary, thanks for sharing

in a couple of hours Doug will be playing NL10k vs Nelson Alves, a Portuguese cash pro.

you can can check it, i guess it will be a great match:

https://www.twitch.tv/nelsonalvespoker

If thats how you wanna frame it... be my guest.

Heres post number 24 and Ill simply repeat my view on this topic...

If either one of them had to get a job at Burger King as a result of losing this match, that would be a greater sting than either one of them than losing $1M+

I would love to see either one of these clowns get humbled. Losing a few million for either one of these guys wont sting them at all.

They could play for $50M heads up. Still wouldnt care about the result. If they played for something that would truely humble them, sure, Id care about the outcome.

looool, neither of these guys are worth >50M come on

Either you're extremely over estimating DP and DN's bankrolls or Im underestimating but I think a 50 million lose would break either of these guys. Would be interesting to know whos bankroll is deeper considering their different paths to success in poker.

Polk's HU course vs. Negreanu's masterclass. IDK about #33

I think you have to look at it differently.

Even if this match left one player completely bankrupt.. it wouldn't sting them that much long term.

President Obama called Dnegs "That Poker Guy" and Dnegs is essentially on the Mount Rushmore of Poker.

Dnegs will always be able to get a sponsorship deal so he could lose everything he owns and still be fine long term.

Even if Doug encounters the absolute worst run of his entire life and lost everything in this match, he would still have zero problems getting staked and would eventually become wealthy again due to his connections.

So if you really want there to be a negative consequence from losing this match (that I'm still not sure will actually happen) you CAN NOT play for just money... You have to play for pride as well.

You have to turn it into a prop bet where the loser has to work in fast food or some other dead end career for X amount of months for Y amount of hours per week.

Why?

Because if one of these guys is humbled by having to get an entry level job, there will be a real financial sting from losing this match.

If Dnegs or Doug is stuck flipping burgers at the Boulder Station Burger King 40 hours a week, they won't have the time to go back to their comfy lives and rapidly regain their wealth.

That's just my view. Besides, there's gonna be a lot of cross booking, investors, etc going behind the scenes even if this match happens.

Doug could thrash Dnegs for $10M or vice versa. Both guys will be fine and life will go on as normal for each of them unless you add a kicker to the match like the requirement of getting an entry level job.

Ask Lindgren, Matusow, Greenstein, etc. about being able to go through their money because they could always get big sponsorship deals.

$10M is 250 buy ins. Seems super likely one of them will lose that.

What you think is irrelevant. When you have lots of money and play someone HU for ego then you can play for burger flipping jobs. And even saying the match "is a nonstarter", I'd bet everything that you watch as much as you possibly can while posting some negative **** itt.

but they have a low cap on the betting. i thought the idea was to bet for significantly more than 2k without a vig (or at least a small one for whoever we get to handle the money).

and given the way the bet is structured (25k hands) 15bb/100 is most definitely not break even for those odds. now he needs an edge of around 10bb/100 for the bet to break even. glad i havent put the money down yet because the dog line is a lot more appealing now.

it's even worse than 25k hands straight up though since doug will never quit and daniel might play it off like he can't be bothered to continue after getting a cold dose of reality.

i've made the case for why i think his edge is probably less than 15 but not significantly so. you say you're very confident it's over 20 but don't seem interested in the bet. does 19 interest you?

Ya this is a genius idea I don't know why you are the only person in this thread who understands that the stakes they are playing for aren't meaningful enough. I also think the loser should have to get a tattoo of the winner's face on their chest. Not a small one but like a giant one where the nipples are the eyes of the other person.

The bet isn't really structured that way though. There's a significant chance that the match just goes 12.5k hands. Also not particularly interested in betting big on this specific aspect as I very rarely gamble outside of playing poker and I've already got 2k on this.

Fwiw I seem to remember DN bragging on HSP about how good he was at making subs when he worked in fast food, he'd have the experience to make it at BK when he loses to DP.

+1.

I'm on-board with this.

I'm only endorsing them getting a fast food job because the second Daniel or Doug tries to get smart with me at the register, I'm going to ask to speak to their manager. LOL

But seriously, both of these guys need a reality check and the loser getting a real world, entry level job in 2020 would give them plethora of perspective and much needed humility.

I was gonna suggest the loser should get breast implants but we've already been there, done that, in the poker world:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Zembic

Then again, Doug would look great with a set of double Ds. LOL

Given that a member of Doug's entourage made a video of Daniel getting sexually assaulted with a sex toy, maybe the prop bet shouldn't involve money at all.

I don't keep up with Doug on social media anymore.... Did Doug disavow the DN sex toy assault video that was put up on YouTube in efforts to antagonize him into this match?

Doug and Daniel have agreed to play their heads-up match on WSOP.com.

Unaware troll