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Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands) Doug Polk's Challenge to Daniel Negreanu: Heads-Up NLHE Showdown (25k Hands)

08-01-2020 , 10:47 AM
Anyone wanna give me odds on this not happening ever?
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08-01-2020 , 10:59 AM
They shouldn't even play for money.

The loser should have to get a fast food job for a year.

The life experience, for either of them, would do them a lot of good long term.
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08-01-2020 , 11:02 AM
I hope it doesnt happen, serves zero purpose other then two guys, one incredibly immature bully and other with serious inferiority issues playing poker. honestly who cares.
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08-01-2020 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bc11816
I hope it doesnt happen, serves zero purpose other then two guys, one incredibly immature bully and other with serious inferiority issues playing poker. honestly who cares.
All I know is Doug tricked the old man to play a game he cannot beat. And he can pat himself on the back for it.
really well thought out. youre right who cares.
25k Hands is about as exciting as watching paint dry.
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08-01-2020 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bc11816
I hope it doesnt happen, serves zero purpose other then two guys, one incredibly immature bully and other with serious inferiority issues playing poker. honestly who cares.
the funny thing is it could have served some kind of purpose, but Dougy Polk refused charity.
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08-01-2020 , 11:57 AM
Why should he accept a charity element? And more importantly why should we scoff at him for doing so?

This is about him getting one over on his oldest rival and making bank in the process. Not everything has to be sunshine and rainbows and "omg u guys lets help the world." I'm sure they both give a lot to charity given their individual mass wealth*.

*and even if they don't, that's entirely up to them!

Edit - just saw your comments about this challenge not being exciting to watch?! Absolute piffle.
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08-01-2020 , 12:00 PM
My hot/cold take is that there's zero chance the DP vs. DN challenge match gets green-lit (as currently proposed) for a regulated U.S. online poker site. For starters, because those high stakes aren't available. But mainly because...

https://fullcontactpoker.com/why-ive...the-challenge/ (by: Daniel Negreanu - Jul 30, 2020)

"I take offense when poker media calls this a 'back and forth.' How disingenuous? I have never made a video targeting this man, I have barely referenced him in the last four years, while my name is on his lips constantly. Where is the evidence of a 'forth' in this case?

Maybe this was all part of his long game plan. Attack me endlessly, bully me, mock me, in the hopes of getting me to agree to a high stakes poker match. If that’s the case, well played. You have your wish." -Daniel Negreanu

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Simply put, you can't force people to gamble if they don't wanna... this was already covered in the Galfond challenge thread when potential opponents were deciding whether to play. EDIT: Not that that's what's happening here... just that that's what DNegs is claiming in the July 30th blog post.

There is already a clear history of Responsible Gaming backlash for "challenge" events that have been cross-promoted by sites/players. Backlash that has primarily resulted in a forced reduction of sites' liability via source of wealth checks, deposit limits, elimination of Inter-Account Transfers (aka "P2P transfers"), contact tracing of gambling-related suicides, sites denying service to "net-withdrawing" players along with a general increase in scrutiny towards regulated sites that ultimately only serves to further drive customers to unregulated/offshore services.

Remember the "Ultimate Sweat" challenge? The one that involved the Staples brothers and Bill Perkins? Which turned out to be a Responsible Gaming nightmare that contributed to an enhanced enforcement of YT policies?

https://www.parttimepoker.com/jaime-...videos-removed

And remember the mid-way point of the inaugural Galfond challenge match versus VeniVidi? That gut-wrenching tweet that received such esteemed praise from colleagues (here) but failed to consider licensed iGambling RG initiatives?

It would be unwise for regulated U.S. online poker sites to involve themselves in these challenges. The latest DN blog just reinforces what we already know: that challenges (especially when real money is involved) represent a clear, high profile responsible gaming liability (imo).

-David

Last edited by dhubermex; 08-01-2020 at 12:19 PM. Reason: see EDIT
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08-01-2020 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
the funny thing is it could have served some kind of purpose, but Dougy Polk refused charity.
Yeah, looks like Daniel just lost it completely at this point.
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08-01-2020 , 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
Why should he accept a charity element? And more importantly why should we scoff at him for doing so?

This is about him getting one over on his oldest rival and making bank in the process. Not everything has to be sunshine and rainbows and "omg u guys lets help the world." I'm sure they both give a lot to charity given their individual mass wealth*.

*and even if they don't, that's entirely up to them!

Edit - just saw your comments about this challenge not being exciting to watch?! Absolute piffle.
The point is why should they not play for charity at least in parts?
whynot? It would give the whole thing a positive vibe.
it was suggested by everyone and doug refused with some bogus excuse.
Just the same bogus excuses he is always using. Daniel sticking to his employer doesnt give you the right to make the mans life miserable.

The whole thing is a set up. This match is like if Lebron challenged MJ to a cage fight.

He should ask the guy to play on his turf if he really wants to play. And otherwise not deal with this crap.

Last edited by washoe; 08-01-2020 at 02:01 PM.
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08-01-2020 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
The whole thing is a set up. This match is like if Lebron challenged MJ to a cage fight.
Is it though? What about DAT Poker Podcast co-host Terrence Chan's thoughts here?



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Also, Jaime Staples has posted on Twitter that "the ultimate sweat had 0% to do with responsible gaming and resulted in no YouTube backlash against my account. Links to poker training sites that YouTube thought were poker sites in the description caused those takedowns." You can view that tweet here.

Last edited by dhubermex; 08-01-2020 at 02:05 PM.
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08-01-2020 , 02:09 PM
I dont know what Dnegs is doing there honestly.
Maybe this all cought him offguard. Looked like he was stressed on the streams.
But now he is in Mexico for 5 weeks hopefully recharging.

I like the shaq comparsion better.

This is like if MJ asked Shaq to have a free-throw shoot out.
Think about it. Shaq could never master the freethrows in his lifetime. And MJ would just crush him.
He never had to. He could just dunk on everyone.

Last edited by washoe; 08-01-2020 at 02:14 PM.
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08-01-2020 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
Is it though? What about DAT Poker Podcast co-host Terrence Chan's thoughts here?



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Also, Jaime Staples has posted on Twitter that "the ultimate sweat had 0% to do with responsible gaming and resulted in no YouTube backlash against my account. Links to poker training sites that YouTube thought were poker sites in the description caused those takedowns." You can view that tweet here.
I think this is a well thought out attack.
Similar as to how a boxer would plan his comeback Doug thought about this in advance.

How do you get Dnegs playing a game against you that is minus ev for him?
First you attack, bully, provoke then you challenge.

Doug has him right where he wanted him against the ropes right now. As he was targeting his ego (or pride with the dick). Hopefully Dnegs comes to his senses now in Mexico and figures this one out. Everything is possible.

Last edited by washoe; 08-01-2020 at 02:30 PM.
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08-01-2020 , 03:40 PM
DNEGS should insist on playing the hands out at micro stakes so it ****s with dougs head , maybe doug will tilt again like in his BR challenge. lol. other than that dnegs has to be dead money.
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08-01-2020 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fishfood69er
DNEGS should insist on playing the hands out at micro stakes so it ****s with dougs head , maybe doug will tilt again like in his BR challenge. lol. other than that dnegs has to be dead money.
Nice idea. He could argue rake is too high and this is not a dick competition.
he could also just rent an airbnb hire a couple dancers and change the conditions so he is a favourite. The challenger shoudlnt have it that easy. Daniel should be the one making demands. He doesnt have to do it, its Doug afterall whos asking for this. Make him come to your turf of beat it.
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08-01-2020 , 03:57 PM
I found one guy who is not afraid of either of these two....


The return of the KING

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08-01-2020 , 04:10 PM
that is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life. whoever that is owes me for the electricity I just wasted
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08-01-2020 , 04:14 PM
Yeah wtf was that......nice stain on the pants tho
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08-01-2020 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Trooper
I found one guy who is not afraid of either of these two....
I'd buy tickets for the 2-1 steel cage match sounds awesome! Good vid I found it hilarious!
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08-01-2020 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
that is the dumbest thing I have ever seen in my life. whoever that is owes me for the electricity I just wasted
Your life is pretty sad, so I’m not surprised.
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08-01-2020 , 04:17 PM
The video had zero views when Carl posted it so I'm guessing that's him lol
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08-01-2020 , 04:17 PM
LOL Video was hilarious. Teeny weeny arms pouring soya milk!!!!
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08-01-2020 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
The video had zero views when Carl posted it so I'm guessing that's him lol
Lol
Obv it’s me.

Well... it’s Chase Thunder
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08-01-2020 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Trooper
I found one guy who is not afraid of either of these two....


The return of the KING

This was on point, great video, 10 out of 10.
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08-01-2020 , 04:55 PM
I don't know why DN accepted this. Polk is bullying and his behavior is terrible. I hope DN backs out and hope he wins if they play.
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08-01-2020 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Trooper
Your life is pretty sad,
maybe, but whats up with your 3.5 ft Christmas tree? Charlie Brown fan? Couldn't splurge for the 4 footer?
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