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Originally Posted by chardonis
ty sir, just got up and literally laughing out loud at this. Now if only I could not go broke....
OP, seriously, you're right to some extent, but you give up too easily.
It's famous that 99% of poker pros play above their BR limits.
But look at someone like Nanonoko. Now that's a professional poker player.
I'm not saying he's interesting to watch, I'm not saying he's better than PI, I'm saying he's the most professional poker player out there.
Have you seen this guy's PTR graph? This guy is no mistake. When you make 5bb or more over 1 million hands with a perfect curve like the one he has, there is no mistake.
Here's the thing. When you play live, there are too many destructive temptations in an environment as unhealthy as a casino.
Namely hookers, drugs, and most obviously all the pit games.
As you pointed out, most pro players are also heavy gamblers.
Most were gamblers before they turned to poker and saw poker as a way to fund their degeneracy.
Most online pros don't run into these downfalls, but they succumb to the battle for ultimate online player.
CTS, Townsend, Durrrrr, etc...all of these guys.
I think they just forgot the principle that even if you're the 2nd best player in the world, if you spend your time playing against the actual best player in the world, you're going to go broke.
No one is rolled for the nosebleeds, except Ivey and a bunch of real life billionaires like Guy.
But again, guys like Nanonoko, Leatherass, are the real pro players.
Their life is not about the glory of taking down Durrrr one day for 500k and losing 1.5 million to PI the next.
Their life is about grinding medium/low-high stakes for 5bb/100 playing 100k hands a month or more.
They make money consistantly and that's why they can call themselves pro players.
They stay where they know they're substantially better than the competition and make a boat-*****-load of money doing so.
You're just giving up too easily.
There are winning players, just very very very few.
And to be honest, many of the people you mention would be perfectly fine if they didn't gamble their money away.
I doubt Johnny Chan went broke (if he did) playing cash games...All of these guys have horrible gambling problems.
you don't have to have them. They're not losing poker players, they're losers period. Nothing says you have to gamble your winnings away and succumb to meth addiction.
Last edited by Foldemlow; 10-17-2010 at 09:28 AM.