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Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

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11-05-2014 , 05:56 PM

#351

sam1chips

adept

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 925

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Originally Posted by BadMoFu

Getting the majority of 2p2 to do some action against the changes will have a much bigger impact then many would think.

if you think so, then it is very possible to get all of the 2p2ers to strike it out. but it needs to be done more effectively, you know what i mean?

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11-05-2014 , 05:59 PM

#352

bmwteam

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,430

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Originally Posted by Sighsalot

We need to pick a large guaranteed MTT on a certain day at a certain time. We also would need to cross post the fact that we're all boycotting said tournament at every poker forum known to man. If they have a big buy in mtt that are mostly reg fests, and get all the regs to not play it discreetly, they will lose a big chunk of change in one shot.

again, large guaranteed mtt's should be the primary target of protest to make they pay for that overlay immediately. That will hurt them.

my 2 cents

ok, so I'll sit to take the overlay. Money gonna money

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11-05-2014 , 06:00 PM

#353

Sighsalot

adept

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,055

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Originally Posted by sam1chips

if you think so, then it is very possible to get all of the 2p2ers to strike it out. but it needs to be done more effectively, you know what i mean?

agreed, and it cannot be done by random people sitting at random tables, it makes no sense. I cashed out $42,589.13 from stars days ago. that's my way of telling them to F off, and bovada will get ALL my business going forward.

those that still choose to play here, as I posted above, must hurt them by inflicting overlays.

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11-05-2014 , 06:02 PM

#354

jukofyork

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Originally Posted by Sighsalot

The only way to get to the attention of Amaya is hurting his wallet. sitting out has too small of an effect.

This.

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again, large guaranteed mtt's should be the primary target of protest to make they pay for that overlay immediately. That will hurt them.

PokerStars cancel guaranteed PCA satellites due to overlay

Juk

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11-05-2014 , 06:03 PM

#355

Sighsalot

adept

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1,055

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Originally Posted by bmwteam

ok, so I'll sit to take the overlay. Money gonna money

but as a reg (I think) you'd just be hurting yourself by sabotaging the efforts of your fellow pros. also hurting your long term bottom line. I fully expect the rando jag off to take advantage of the overlay, however if marketed properly, and spread across all forums, we can literally cost them 6 figures every sunday.

the sunday mill for example is loaded with nothing but names I know, meaning they are regs, meaning they are on forums, and if not on this one, some other one. point being we can really hurt them with organization and a proper plan.

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11-05-2014 , 06:04 PM

#356

Sighsalot

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Originally Posted by jukofyork

This.

PokerStars cancel guaranteed PCA satellites due to overlay

Juk

ha, I actually posted in that thread going after stars, until it was outed that it was some automatic cancellation or some nonsense they are trying to sell.

we would have to be careful doing this and spread a lot of PM's and whispers, so they don't get wind of the overlay boycott and lower the guarantee

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11-05-2014 , 06:07 PM

#357

callme

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,676

Now the Cap games are empty, people actually playing - protest over?

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11-05-2014 , 06:08 PM

#358

Joe Knott

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 431

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Originally Posted by omnishakira

anyway its not like i care all that much if the hu bumhunters scum are raked more

yeah except heads up zoom rake cap has increased just the same, we're bumhunters too or what? so ridiculous

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11-05-2014 , 06:10 PM

#359

BadMoFu

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,169

I dare everyone to open 5-10 running HU tables and typing the following in observer chat:

"You are now paying almost 2x rake due to changes made by Amaya. Google it!"

Do it once or twice a day. First time someone reads it they will ignore it, second time they will have a dejavu, third time they will google it.

I just did it.

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11-05-2014 , 06:35 PM

#360

gakn29

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,230

you people are funny

I fully endorse all the regs packing up shop and leaving for another site..........ill stay on Stars though.......but you guys head off into the sunset

sitting out approach has been done numerous times before and ends badly........not for Stars......your account will be slapped with a warning or worse

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11-05-2014 , 06:36 PM

#361

belthazorrrrr

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they banned me because i was sitting out in a sng

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11-05-2014 , 07:00 PM

#362

The Camel

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Play the 100r as a freezeout for a week.

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11-05-2014 , 07:08 PM

#363

.isolated

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Originally Posted by BadMoFu

Doing something is better then nothing.

That's not true. If it doesn't change Amaya's bottom line, they won't care so it's all a waste of time and energy better spent on something else. Getting people aware of rake changes isn't changing their bottom line. Withdrawing is. It will never happen though and for lots of good reasons.

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11-05-2014 , 07:14 PM

#364

omnishakira

High Troller

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9,732

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Originally Posted by Joe Knott

yeah except heads up zoom rake cap has increased just the same, we're bumhunters too or what? so ridiculous

well sorry about that. wish you werent raked more

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11-05-2014 , 08:12 PM

#365

borg23

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lol@thinking if you tell people about this in chat the world becomes puppies and rainbows

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11-05-2014 , 08:22 PM

#366

The Viper

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 92

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Originally Posted by .isolated

Withdrawing money is completely meaningless to them because everything deposited is held in an account segregated from company money, by law. All deposits go into it and all withdraws come out of it. But none of it is the companies money, so if it fluctuates up and down a bit it makes no difference to their monthly profits at all.

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11-05-2014 , 08:25 PM

#367

bjsmith22

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Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 2,235

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Originally Posted by The Viper

Yeah, casinos don't mind when you leave with 10k cash in your hand either, cause the money is in your hand: it makes no difference to their monthly profits at all if you walk out with it.

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11-05-2014 , 08:48 PM

#368

rejeanne13241

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Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 17

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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr

they banned me because i was sitting out in a sng

LOL, next time don't sit out

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11-05-2014 , 09:27 PM

#369

foxcatcher

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Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 88

An extra website is necessary to achive something. Or at least a few major points:

- raising awareness of what has happened (Amaya bought PokerStars, how did that happen, why etc.)
- what are the side effects (rake.. vip changes etc.)
- general updated information about poker sites, rakes, news etc.
- strike organization like as some sort of poker player "union"

With just this thread and this one day.. srsl.. its better than doing nothing but its not gonna have a major impact.

fox

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11-05-2014 , 10:42 PM

#370

JccGrmn

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Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 91

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Originally Posted by belthazorrrrr

they banned me because i was sitting out in a sng

just to make it clear - temporarily?

Last edited by JccGrmn; 11-05-2014 at 10:52 PM.

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11-05-2014 , 10:48 PM

#371

U shove i call

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,810

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Originally Posted by The Viper

You dont think they get interest on our balances?

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11-05-2014 , 10:49 PM

#372

sqwerty12

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Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,561

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Originally Posted by sam1chips

+1.

2.) Even if you get everyone no 2p2 to boycott PokerStars, what does that do to them? What percent of Pokerstars traffic is 2p2 members? Does anybody have an estimate? My guess off the top of my head is like 3%, but I literally have no idea.

My guess is something around 1% of that

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11-05-2014 , 10:50 PM

#373

thehelper

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Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 753

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Originally Posted by sqwerty12

My guess is something around 1% of that

Are we just guessing the number of people with active (posted within 2 weeks) members or all-time?

Active, I'd say 5%. All-time, I'd say ~40%.

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11-05-2014 , 11:00 PM

#374

omnishakira

High Troller

Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 9,732

40% confirmed

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11-05-2014 , 11:19 PM

#375

metza

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 316

I'm sitting out on Zoom as protest, doesn't seem to be doing much, nobody is reading my chatbox messages...

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