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View Poll Results: The poll: Dare you play Pokerstars on November 5 ?
Yes 119 18.22%
Maybe 59 9.04%
No 324 49.62%
I cant play (live in USA, other countries like Bangladesh) 151 23.12%
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Old 10-30-2014, 04:57 AM   #1
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Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

Amaya/Pokerstars have a monopoly on online poker and are making any changes that they believe will increase their bottom line. They have just increased rake across most games:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...anets-1485512/

Added a 2.5% margin on cashouts and deposits when changing currencies.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...sions-1484190/

It is time for players to do something. While it may seem that player power is limited, history has shown that organized player movement can have results. The alternative is to do nothing and let Amaya walk all over you.

A few ideas:

i) A mass player sitout on the 5th of November at 6pm(GMT). At this time you open as many tables as you can and sitout for 2 hours. Explain to other players why this is happening.
ii) Do not use the name pokerstars anywhere. If you do this it gives the company soft advertising. Pokerstars was the old company, Amaya is the present. Call them Amaya.
iii) An organized player movement away from Amaya. Players join together as a union/single group and approach the other sites. If this group of players is significant enough they should be able to negotiate a deal with those sites that gives them amazing rewards and customer service.

How can you protest/what should you do?

- Do not play on Pokerstars/Full Tilt on the 5th of November
- Withdraw money from the sites
- Spread the word and tell others

Please post ideas and support.

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Old 10-30-2014, 04:59 AM   #2
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:00 AM   #3
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Im in ,please people, share this thread with everyone and support it,this is really important.
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:02 AM   #4
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

For this to work, this need to be cross referenced across all non-2p2 forums.

Im in

from the cell beeeetchs
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:02 AM   #5
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:03 AM   #6
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

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Old 10-30-2014, 05:04 AM   #7
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

+1 Also, I have requested my ps account image to what I have here
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:08 AM   #8
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

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iii) An organized player movement away from Amaya. Players join together as a union/single group and approach the other sites. If this group of players is significant enough they should be able to negotiate a deal with those sites that gives them amazing rewards and customer service.

Please post ideas and support.
Yea that's just not how things work anymore. Unless you want to end up on some shady sites.
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:10 AM   #9
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Yea that's just not how things work anymore. Unless you want to end up on some shady sites.
Not if you're in Europe.
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:11 AM   #10
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

Yeah, this will work out well

I can't see how it could possibly fail

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Old 10-30-2014, 05:15 AM   #11
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sit out lol. yeh the morally outstanding people that are online poker players will all sit out at the softest hour in stars recent history
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:18 AM   #12
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sit out lol. yeh the morally outstanding people that are online poker players will all sit out at the softest hour in stars recent history
we dont need those negative comments, twice in the past pokerplayers have united together against a site and it worked(ps.fr/partypoker), no reason for not giving it a shot here.
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:18 AM   #13
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:20 AM   #14
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id like to see a mass sit out of Venetian but this works too
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:20 AM   #15
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Didnt stars just close all the tables that people sat out at and temp banned everyone though?

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Old 10-30-2014, 05:23 AM   #16
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

so sit out on the 5th and all return to play the micro millions on the 6th.

Genius...
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:30 AM   #17
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

90% of the hu lobby does this every day
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:31 AM   #18
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

Sorry, you missed the sitout - it happened this past Monday.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...tober-1485541/
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:36 AM   #19
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

raising the rake? i hope their greed bites them in the a$$. why cant there just be one trustworthy site who offered half the standard rake. wouldnt that site just blow up with traffic? never understood why the smaller sites didnt try this to seperate themselves from the big guys.
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:43 AM   #20
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

our best chance is people with huge social media presence , but most of them are pokerstars pro
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Old 10-30-2014, 05:52 AM   #21
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

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Sorry, you missed the sitout - it happened this past Monday.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...tober-1485541/
Cheap shot, that thread has 8 posters, hardly a mass movement. Considering I'm here every day moaning about stars (maybe not every day but it feels like it) and I didn't hear about it, it's hardly a ground swell movement.

I think things have changed significantly with the new rake changes.
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Old 10-30-2014, 06:23 AM   #22
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I'm here every day moaning about stars



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Old 10-30-2014, 06:28 AM   #23
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re: Don't Give In To Amaya(5th of November Protest)

An additional suggestion: if you want to hurt Amaya with a reasonable expectation of success, how about regs agreeing on one MTT with a big guarantee to boycott? Make them pay the overlay. The Super Tuesday comes to mind, since I believe it's pretty reg-infested and high buyin so you wouldn't need that many people to participate to pull it off. Boycotting the SM would be more powerful but I think it'd be very hard to succeed.
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Old 10-30-2014, 06:35 AM   #24
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^ Idea might be good but I tell you what happens. People will late register their asses off because of the soft field
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Old 10-30-2014, 06:40 AM   #25
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