If they get Pokerstars back in the USA , fantastic job ,if not I don't really care what they do.

Lately NVG has been plastered with posters shaking their fist at PS/Amaya. PS reads all these posts and must get a chuckle at some of the stuff.

Just thinking off the top of my head, I don't think a lot of the stuff that has transpired is due entirely because Pokerstars was acquired by Amaya.

UK Legislation: PS caught a lot of grief from players but it appears they were just trying to follow the new law. They even pushed back the changes until the appeal was heard.

Spin and Go: I would be surprised if Amaya had anything to do with this. I could be wrong (would not be the first time) but aren't add ons like this in the pipeline for a long time before they debut? I think players are more upset that it benefits the site more than the regs.

Seating Scripts: Briefly scanned this thread but I didn't see any solutions offered up. If PS could restrict them, they should. But I believe they should do away with HUDs as well.

Leaving Grey Markets: So many countries are now coming under legislation. PS/Amaya is probably doing everything possible to make sure they are as buttoned up as they can be so they can enter the US market. Losing fringe countries means very little to them. However, landing California - that matters.

Launching Casino games on Full Tilt and PS in Spain: Amaya is most definitely behind this. But it's a normal progression. Sports betting is sure to follow. But isn't that to be expected? The house wants your money they don't care how they get it. Rake or bets on BJ or the game.

Getting back to the US (New Jersey specifically) If this happens, should Amaya get praise if they're getting pounded for all the other changes? PS had no shot to land in the US with the previous owners.

Axing Affiliates: I don't know if this is good or bad for players. The affiliates are raising a stink but in the T & C is says that they can end the agreement in 7 days with written notice. Pokerstars is going to need to promote casino and sports betting these affiliates won't help them. So it may have been a bad move.

Dropping pros including Gus Hansen, Viktor and Joe Cada. As long as they continue to keep the roster stocked with pros, I don't have a problem with this. It's part of the ebb and flow of sponsorship.

Currency Exchange Rates: Not sure of this one. If PS is going for a money grab then that's bad, really bad and deviates away from the Pokerstars Ethos. If it's just trying to optimize cots and are inline with other companies then it's ok, I guess.

$5200 WCOOP for Supernova (Effects 400 players) no changes in 2015. They are considering more significant changes for implementation in 2016. They say details will be available in the second half of next year. This is the big one. Currently it effects only 400 players but if they mess with the VIP program - then it's time to take to the streets.

Blatant disregard of Brazilian Play Money chip dumping on Full Tilt. This could be their Waterloo. Wake The F Up!

Since Amaya/PS has so much debt they are being very diligent and cost cutting where they can. It's a publicly traded company now so that's normal.

If their goal is to eliminate the debt and offer more to the players then I think they're doing a good job. If they're not doing that, and merely killing the golden goose then shame on them.

More than these changes, I think the big indicator PS/Amaya is heading in the wrong direction is if people high up in the pokerstars food chain decide to leave.

When 3 or 4 people 'decide to pursue other interests' that's when we should all start to worry.

Insomnia FTW!

americans are so egocentric. I hate to heard you in all thread saying always the samething ''blablabla pokerstars blablabla USA''

STFU!!!

umm you would have an ego to if you were from the most powerfull country in the history of the world.

NVG #1!

They are corporate *******s. Of course they are responsible for SpinnGoes, conversation rates etc. Amaya has taken over Pokerstars and put these changes into place. They are responsible. Stop making excuses for *******s that just will come and take whatever they can before they destroy the business and leave a lot of players that love the game in the toilet.

i said egocentric but its more egoist. the guy dont care about what happen to players worldwide, he just want to tell us that he want his game back like a fkn crying baby.

go visit disneyland or buy i fkn tshirt I <3 Ohio and leave this thread clean from comments like ''i dont care about op question, i just want pokerstars back into u.s'' like we seen 10000x in other threads

If Prince Harry walks I walk!

an ego perhaps, but not the best spelling though?

Yes US is so powerfull they let their population die in the streets, only worships money and have no freedom for anyone but a selected few.

Have a system where corruption is the norm for lawmakers and not the good for the people (see healthcare).

I for one woulden`t live in US unless i were a billionaire ( whitch im not) even though we have problems in europe it`s 1000 times better than US imo.

And Amaya go fxxx yourself

So far 13 confirmed Stars employees on 2+2

+2

Bad. But worth all of it if full entry into US market happens.

Stars mod deleting posts again, sigh.

People who voted for Absolutely fantastic or Good job please let us know how are their decisions benefiting players?

If they're pissing off the regs, they're doing a fine job in my view.

It is confusing that the currency exchange thing is one of the tipping points to "Stars is clearly just grabbing cash, it is now proven". Reading this guy's post, they're letting him convert $50k/month without charge. How baller are you to think that $50k/month isn't a big enough limit for online currency conversion?

Maybe the rest of us are super jealous sitting on the sidelines, but it seems like any negative impact of changes is snap screamed from the rooftops, even though the actual impact seems tiny.

Hey, make sure Stars is the best possible place for players, because your good work might help the rest of us via trickle down. Just wonder about the crying wolf aspects.

Not egocentric but bitter , Americans had internet poker cruelly ripped away from them and now have a faint hope that Amaya can bring back a semblance of what we once had. If Pokerstars comes back it won't be the same as it was , now they have a money grabbing corporation behind them , but at least if will be better than what we now have. Amaya has the power , capital and motivation to reenter the US and if it does the whole of the poker world will benefit from it.

How is that? You realize it will be in a segregated player pool right? Americans wont get to play with the ROW Stars players. They probably wont even get to play with Americans in other states.

So you're mad that he is listing potential benefits? Calm down. I think the poker world as a whole would be very happy if you picked 5 random states in the US and legalized online poker there. The fact is now that legislators have taken up this issue, it will move extremely slow and progress will come in the form of baby steps like..... The one you're complaining about.

I don't doubt they would be happy. But he said "the whole of the poker world will benefit from it." I don't think that's an accurate statement. In what way do German or Russian online players benefit from legalized online poker in Nevada and New Jersey? In what way would they benefit from more states being legalized and having segregated player pools of their own?

Why are you saying that US players are going to be playing only against them?

Why am I saying the US is going to have segregated player pools? Because that's how it has to be due to US law. That's how it is in Nevada and New Jersey and that's how it's going to be in all of the other states. It's possible there will be nationwide legislation that allows for a united player pool but even that would be US only. It's a crazy pipe dream to think that they would allow foreign players to share the player pool. That's extremely unlikely to ever happen.

And thus, no benefit to foreign players.

even Howard Lederer would make a better manager.

I don't think any government would pass on the opportunity to tax foreign money. When you include ROW you get to rake their money onto your soil. I imagine that if the regulation of online poker in the US gets the the point of shared player pools between states, the next step is national player pools, and finally rest of the world. You might be looking at 8-12 years before everyone gets on the same page. But it would absolutely happen.