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do you still respect durrr? do you still respect durrr?
View Poll Results: Do you still respect durrr
yes
2,050 81.06%
no
479 18.94%

10-01-2011 , 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by The OG
******ed Clowns gonna ****** Clown...

Durrrr has always been 100% honest before any of the FTP BS, never once has his name ever been associated with anything shady or under handed.

Now all of a sudden his character has changed? Really???

Blaming Tom for anything is beyond comprehension..

He is the ONLY stand up person in this whole entire mess! Guy has answered more questions that he didn't have to answer. He answered questions for 2 + 2, he could of said nothing like everyone else is but Tom's ONLY interest that goes way beyond his millions he is going to lose is to have US players get paid back.

Tom thanks for being a role model for how to do things right for online poker.
This. Tom and Jman are probably the only really honest guys left in online poker. Much props.
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10-01-2011 , 12:32 PM
i respect him as much as he respects me.
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10-01-2011 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by PostflopNoob
This. Tom and Jman are probably the only really honest guys left in online poker. Much props.
That's pretty much crap. All we talk about are the few rotten eggs but the reality is, at least in terms of high stakes online players, the level of integrity is way beyond the average cross section of society.

If anything the level of honesty is too high as it opens up an opportunity to the rare con artist to take advantage. I just don't understand why so many poker enthusiasts enjoy denigrating their own profession/hobby.
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10-01-2011 , 12:59 PM
Tom Dwan has definately handled this in the right way. He has seemed to come out as soon as he felt possible and with the information and reasoning behind what he was thinking. He probably could have not even done that, it's not like anyone else from Team FTP has, and gotten off not saying anything. So for that, I respect him even more.

Also from reading what I have, it's in my oppinion that he probably wasn't so "in the know" on the FTP, as people may have thought. It would make sense that he came later to team FTP. So it is reasonable to assume, it porbably was not in the Boards (lol) best niterest to make him privy to everything. All assumptions, but given the overall situation, and how it has unfolded, I think Tom Dwan handled this as good as one can given the magnitude of what unfolded. He seems to be a winner beyond the table, and I hope he wins a WSOP bracelet.


*only thing a little risky imo, was the unchoreographed interveiws.
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10-01-2011 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by shortbusbully
I always thought the big game on ftp was a funny money type of publicity stunt orchestrated by them. As it turns out it was , though whether the players knew this is debatable, other than benyamine of course, obviously HE KNEW it was funny money. I can't 3 bet 68 os, or bluff quads against second nut, but i damn sure can tell a kid when he should get a lawyer, and durr my friend, put a muzzle on it and hire a lawyer.
Seems to be the most logical play here. Spot On IMO.
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10-01-2011 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tamiller866
That's pretty much crap. All we talk about are the few rotten eggs but the reality is, at least in terms of high stakes online players, the level of integrity is way beyond the average cross section of society.

If anything the level of honesty is too high as it opens up an opportunity to the rare con artist to take advantage. I just don't understand why so many poker enthusiasts enjoy denigrating their own profession/hobby.
Because they can't get over losing.

Being able to lose and taking your losses "as is" is very difficult for most people. They become delusional and don't want to see the reality of the risk involved, the fact that they took that risk themselves and now they have lost.

But tbph, of course people are going to react crazily.. there is no precedent for this. Not really. There have been scandals in online poker.. but this is more akin to a complete meltdown.

** I'm gonna stfu about this for a while. It really is a uniquely ****ed kind of situation. No one's getting out of this anytime soon. It's very upsetting (if you're involved.. and I'm not.. ppl not in the hand should stfu).

S2+s2
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10-01-2011 , 02:26 PM
If Poll was: "Does Durrrr still respect 2+2" it would be 100% "Yes" since he is taking risks to inform us.
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10-01-2011 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nice_Steady
If Poll was: "Does Durrrr still respect 2+2" it would be 100% "Yes" since he is taking risks to inform us.
The only information I get from Durrrr is how cool Durrrr is.
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10-01-2011 , 03:01 PM
I do.

However like other higher ups not only in poker industry but other industries as well.

I am sure he knows or knew something that he does/didn't want to get leaked to the public.
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10-01-2011 , 03:17 PM
In my eyes durrrr is the only guy who comes out of this from FTP with a degree of credit. He said he'd pay back all the money he got from FTP and has not once gone back on that. He never needed to do that. How many other members of Team FT have offered this. It shocks me people say they don't respect him. He's brought new players to the game, plays on a completely different level to very good holdem players, and was just a guy being sponsored by FT the same as many others. In hindsight I'm sure he regrets signing with FT now, but he has offered to pay the money back, and is answering your questions via a post in 2+2. He is a genuine guy, have a ton of respect for him and he lost far more money on FT then all you people here dissin' him. If he said nothing at all then no one at all at FT would have said anything, besides a drunk Matusow on QJ. Damned if he does, damned if he don't. Fortunately with the French Investors here to save the day, durrrrr won't get the chance to prove his worth, but I'd go huge he would've if the worst had have come to the worst. The guy suggesting he should lawyer up just makes me sick.

Last edited by jjjjudas; 10-01-2011 at 03:32 PM.
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10-01-2011 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by stu+stu
I read and understood the first sentence of his post.
interesting you made your post from the angle you used in the first place then... with a post like that I just assumed you'd need clarification, sorry

Last edited by AntiHer0; 10-01-2011 at 03:33 PM.
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10-01-2011 , 04:36 PM
Do u still respect phil Gordon?
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10-01-2011 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by N2WISHIN
Do u still respect phil Gordon?
Did anybody ever respect Phil Gordon?
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10-01-2011 , 05:22 PM
How could you not respect Durrr? Scumbags more than twice his age keep his mouth shut and steal millions yet he speaks up and guarantees his own money.

Balls.
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10-01-2011 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by flpokerplayer
He loves his wallet more than anything else, no matter what he may do or say its for His bests intrests, not yours. He is not, nor never, will be looking out for anyone but Tom Dwan.
Um, yeah, and what's so wrong with that? Poker isn't a charity and I think in general most people tend to look out for themselves and their family...that's kinda how the world works dude
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10-01-2011 , 05:30 PM
This survey is absurd, of course has my full respect Durrr
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10-01-2011 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeDiego
How could you not respect Durrr? Scumbags more than twice his age keep his mouth shut and steal millions yet he speaks up and guarantees his own money.

Balls.
Exactly, Durrr is still the ****! Keep his million.... He's not the only reason u played FTP, if he his, then u were on his nuts way too much, to begin with!!!!
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10-03-2011 , 11:13 AM
Durrrr is the man, only one who actually cares about something, even more respect now!
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10-03-2011 , 12:11 PM
nothing he did or said recently had any influence on how much respect I have for him, as he never did anything I wouldn't expect someone in his position to do. He is a professional poker player, that is all. Not a supershady villian nor santa.

do I believe that he was just naive when he signed up with FT? - very plausible and I have no reason not to believe that

do I believe him owing FT $1mio should have any impact on my respect? - Not really. Nothing we learned so far indicated that he should have been aware that the way they handled this was causing us problems.

do I believe that him guaranteeing the $1mio and getting more vocal now is a completely selfless act of love for us? - No, and there is nothing wrong with it and I applaud him for it since I think it is pretty smart on several levels. Motives don't have to be pure selfless acts of love in order for the actions to get appreciated in my book.

Do I find it weird that he doesn't answer all questions to everybody's satisfaction. - of course not. I imagine some questions are very tricky to answer without opening yet another can of worms and besides some people would never be satisfied anyways. People tend to forget who he is. Not a politician, who is extremely trained in interviews, nor your childhood-buddy who shares everything with you. Just a professional poker player: maximising his edge and trying to maintain a friendly relationship in his workenvironment.

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10-03-2011 , 12:23 PM
durrrr is okay but team israel is the best
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10-03-2011 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by durrrr
thats very true that i knew info that i could, and wanted to share- i went back and forth many times about what i thought was in the best interest of players being paid back, and tried to do what was right with that in mind. dunno if i did but doubt any course of action after mid-june would've made much diff
If that's true (and your info was correct), why did you immediately jump on here to say how sure you were that we'd get paid? Was that a PR stunt for FT? Or did you miscalculate the info? Seems pretty out of character for you to miscalculate info like that, so I'm genuinely perplexed.
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10-03-2011 , 01:56 PM
Durrrr is about the only one I still do respect. He came on two plus two and answered questions from everyone and anyone to the best of his ability when everyone else is mia. Mad props....Mad props
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