Decision in Ivey/Borgata Case - Page 27 - Poker News

His options,
Pay the vig, be red flagged in every Baccarat house in the western world , but to the community as a whole he payed his debt .. he fired. He missed.. move on

Don't pay the vig , be hunted forever, and red flagged, loses his "good' name and standing.

Don't pay, move to Macao , never come back to the states again..and live with it and all the **** that comes with it.

Conclusion ?

A good night's sleep with a clear conscience is priceless..

Like the song by The Clash

I fought the law and the law won..

HEE BEEET MJEEE, FJAIR AND SQUARE STRAIGHT UP.
PAY DAT MJAAAN HEEEEES MONEY.....

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02-08-2019 , 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ray Zee

not necessarily. a judge if he feels a person is hiding assets can put them in jail until they show them to the court even if out of the country.

For that, the court needs to know that those assets exist. It’s already pretty hard to track down domestic assets in “industries” that work with a limited amount of paper receipts like gambling or drugs.

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02-16-2019 , 09:36 PM

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The world of high-stakes gambling has proven to be an intriguing topic for audiences of literature and film, as demonstrated by the success of recent works "Molly’s Game" and "Crazy Rich Asians". Now, a high-stakes tale involving Phil Ivey’s famed edge-sorting partner is heading to the big screen.

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2019/...-sun-33375.htm

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02-18-2019 , 03:22 PM

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UncleJAthletics

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If Turk from Scrubs doesn't play Ivey, we riot.

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02-20-2019 , 09:26 PM

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wowsooooted

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justice for ivey!

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02-20-2019 , 09:42 PM

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Dadonk612

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/chicago...ard-trade/amp/

Imagine marrying a woman named.Antoinette Vigilante

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02-21-2019 , 01:49 AM

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Bobo Fett

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When I read that her lawyer is Stan Sneeringer, I can't help but wonder if I'm reading The Onion.

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02-21-2019 , 03:40 AM

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Primedirective@

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He could use my lawyers.. they never lose

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02-21-2019 , 03:57 PM

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02-21-2019 , 04:51 PM

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Adebisi

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Originally Posted by madlex

I've always thought this was the clearest way out of this for Ivey. Spend a few years manipulating his finances in such a way so that his only real asset is that some Chinese billionaire owes him 35 million dollars. No records, no paperwork, just a private handshake. Ivey declares bankruptcy, gets rid of the judgement, then after a respectable amount of time has passed, he gets "staked" in massive private heads up match in Asia and just happens to come out of it 35 million dollars ahead.

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02-22-2019 , 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dadonk612

Imagine marrying a woman named.Antoinette Vigilante

Would make a excellent sn

2+2 can start trademarking names for that. New business

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02-22-2019 , 08:11 PM

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deyweresooted

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If Turk from Scrubs doesn't play Ivey, we riot.

underappreciated post is underappreciated

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03-07-2019 , 07:12 PM

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New article about probability of appellate success... https://www.njonlinegambling.com/phi...gambling-case/

Item of interest: look for appeal to hinge on definition of marking

Also of interest...funds were wired to a bank in Mexico, meaning Borgata/MGM reasonably knew that funds were not located within the United States.

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03-07-2019 , 08:51 PM

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dellerrrr

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Lol at pocket pair vs AK

Nice attention grabber by the author

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03-08-2019 , 08:40 PM

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justice for ivey!

I will always have fond memories of him! Such a kindred soul. I met him way back when he was banking from Full Tilt. He was soo cool. He was producing a movie my ex worked on. First impressions last a lifetime, was already a huge fan and he sealed the deal!!

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03-09-2019 , 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by michelle227

Stopped reading at "Phil Ivey Has 50-60% Of Winning". It's either 50 - 50 or 60 - 40. It can't be 50 - 60. The author must be an idiot.

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03-09-2019 , 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxLuser

Stopped reading at "Phil Ivey Has 50-60% Of Winning". It's either 50 - 50 or 60 - 40. It can't be 50 - 60. The author must be an idiot.

This is a level, right?

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03-09-2019 , 01:23 AM

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If not, my guess is that Max stops reading many articles before he gets to the end.

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03-11-2019 , 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxLuser

Stopped reading at "Phil Ivey Has 50-60% Of Winning". It's either 50 - 50 or 60 - 40. It can't be 50 - 60. The author must be an idiot.

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This is a level, right?

I think he's just reading it wrong to himself haha

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03-11-2019 , 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxo

I will always have fond memories of him! Such a kindred soul. I met him way back when he was banking from Full Tilt. He was soo cool. He was producing a movie my ex worked on. First impressions last a lifetime, was already a huge fan and he sealed the deal!!

lol, just how did he do that, meriting double exclamation points ?

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03-13-2019 , 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by whosnext

... my guess is that Max stops reading many articles before he gets to the end.

News to me. I didn't know he could read!

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07-08-2020 , 07:08 PM

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Not sure about the full implications of this, but seems like his trouble with MGM is over?

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2020/...ment-37591.htm

Maybe this means he can once again play the WSOP and other events in LV without fear of those MGM clowns shaking him down every time he cashes.

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07-08-2020 , 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DogFace

Good. No side looked great here.

Ivey took an enormous risk going to multiple casinos and clearing millions of dollars every time. He was like the Mike Postle of baccarat. He shouldn’t have made it so obvious.

I have to think the casinos knew at some point though and perhaps were free-rolling them. Maybe. Borgata paid him out. I don’t think the London casino did though.

Interesting story and it’s good that it finally concluded.

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07-09-2020 , 12:34 AM

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I don't think they would let him play if they knew what he was doing. It isn't clear Borgata knew until he sued the London casino.

Maybe Ivey needed to win enough in Asia to pay the settlement. Presumably his partner got a share of the baccarat winnings, and he may have gambled away at table games his money from FTP and from crushing the big mixed games, high stakes MTTs, and high stakes online before 2011.