Dealers allegedly stealing chips from the pots at Encore Boston Harbor in Massachusetts.

David Paredes posted the allegations on X (previously called Twitter).



https://x.com/gaucho2121/status/1707...XPX-GeBAnlC9Zw

Sounds like a NYC home game. High take then they take some more.

Paging Joan Rivers

Seems like a lot of random speculation with no proof or specifics. I'd keep an eye out if I was playing there, but I'd assume anyone playing at that level would be keeping an eye out.

While in general it's very important not to allow ourselves to fall into mass hysteria based on disinformation, it's also important at times to acknowledge that sometimes entire industries have their own open secrets that for legal reasons rarely see the light of day, and if a bunch of usually reputable people are voicing similar concerns, and the consequences of good responsive behaviour are limited to pros and recs alike staying vigilant, then have at it when it comes to spreading the word.

Pretty brazen considering how aspie a lot of players are, especially PLO players, when it comes to keeping track of pot sizes. I guess the dealers may be aware of this and choose who's won pot they nick from..
Whale wins big multi way pot and barely even stacks his chips=nick a hundo?

PLO would be the game they target; regularly lots of big pots and multiway - were there 3 limpers before i potted it or 4? very difficult to keep track of all the things you need to keep track of and then have to add remembering pot sizes in order to reconstruct them. plenty of scope for a skillful and determined dealer to take thousands off a game in a single night without being noticed and i wouldn't be shocked if this were to account for vast majority of money stolen from me over the years

Yup, also people don’t ask the dealer to physically count the pot (normally), if there is a question of pot size they just talk out the action and go from there would be easy to nick a quarter from every large pot… also a dealer stole low-mid five figures from the bad beat drop at MGMNH like 5 years ago over like nine months so it happens…

I used to work surveillance at a casino in California. We would typically have floor personnel stealing chips from dealer tip drop boxes and sometimes dealers taking from their tray but that was usually at the cage at the end of their shift where they didn’t think they were on camera.

I think we maybe once suspected a poker dealer of doing this from the pots but we could never find hard evidence. It’s way more difficult than you think to try to count how many chips are in a pot, or even a blackjack bet, from a two dimensional overhead perspective with no audio.

Point is, it’s rare to have enough evidence to apprehend the person. Guarantee the dealer has been doing it for a very long time, finally had enough players notice to warrant keeping an eye on him, and eventually got sloppy enough where they were able to get hard proof of what he was doing.

If you don't use RFID chips - does anywhere? - the only way to do it is to have a mic on the table and ensure that the dealer announces every single bet size, but even then that's a lot of labour that goes into trying to catch this, and a casino is very likely going to be reticent to spend significant manhours trying to protect punters rather than their own bottom line.

I have a feeling that if a player was stealing chips from the pot security would be on him like a bum on a ham sandwich.

Perhaps, but a) that's easier to detect and b) there are far more players than dealers so there's some value in setting a precedent of treating such cheaters very harshly and c) dealers stealing from pots is highly embarrassing for the casino and they will look to deal with it privately

Note to self: If offered a sandwich by jcorb, hard pass.

This happened where like 6 dealers at best bet Jacksonville were caught stealing from pots. No charges pressed. No compensation to players (they were doing it for a long time and multiple dealers doing it). They were fired but I think nothing happened to their licenses and it was a while ago maybe the same dealers??? Not surprising that this occurred at two of the worst run rooms in the country.

How they were doing it in Jacksonville they had their own trays (idiotic room still does this) so they would take 5 out of the pot to make change, make change and take another 5 acting like they made change first. Their wells were 100+ heavy after 1 30 min down.

I played plo at mgm detroit a few weeks ago for the first time.
The way they took rake there was a joke. Some dealers would just leave rake for 3-4 hands then drop it all at once. I caught 2 dealers double raking pots. It seemed some dealers double raked running it twice and some didn't. Nobody else has a problem with any of this at all. Pretty sure dealers in those games could steal tons of black chips and none of those dipshits would notice.

Dealers also know which regs pay attention to the pot and what's going on and which don't. So if someone attentive was in their game they could just not steal that down.

This sort of this isn't unheard of. In nearby New Hampshire, it was confirmed that Poker Dealers were stealing out of the pots.

https://newhampshirebulletin.com/202...ike-its-peers/

I remember a case in Florida a while back where staff was stealing out of the tourney prize pools.

I played in a WSOP Circuit main event satty years ago. When the seats were announced, the prize pool didn't add up. We had players standing up, refusing to act, because the prize pool was so grossly undercounted.

It was the craziest thing. The tournament was paused and magically, 7 additional $1700 seats show up in the prize pool. What were they going to do if no one had said anything?

I've twice recently corrected dealers on being wrong. Once was in a tournament for a 1k chip, the other in a cash game where I knew the pot was short one dollar after the pre-flop bets had been drug in. The only person who thanked me was the dealer in the tournament. The cash game dealer was very butthurt, as were two of the players who said its only a dollar. Thus, I shorted my small blind by a dollar a couple hands later and asked how they could get mad.

Yeah it always astonishes me how much poker players (and society in general) get mad at you when you quibble over what's actually kinda important and can easily add up. Social pressure can be really dumb.