Didn't these tables fail multiple times like 10 years ago? Would a giant ipad design change your mind about playing at one?

http://www.miamiherald.com/entertain...168691777.html

"Jake Kalpakian, CEO of Jackpot Digital. "

That's a name from the past .... as in Action Poker Network. Met him around 2001- 2002, he tried to buy my company within 15 minutes of lunchtime conversation. His pitch was his company had already gone public, so ..... etc etc etc. Personable enough guy.

http://www.jackpotdigital.com/investors.html

This company announced it had purchased the assets of the PokerTek business in 2015:

VANCOUVER, BRITISH COLUMBIA.
July 2, 2015
– Jackpot Digital Inc.
(formerly Las
Vegas From Home.com Entertainment Inc.) (the “Compa
ny” or “Jackpot”) (TSX-V: JP) (US OTC
Pink Sheets: JPOTF) (Frankfurt & Berlin Exchanges:
LVH). The Company is pleased to announce
that it has entered into an Asset Purchase Agreemen
t with Multimedia Games Inc. (“MultiMedia”)
whereby the Company has agreed to purchase from Mul
tiMedia and MultiMedia has agreed to sell
to the Company the assets of the PokerTek business
unit of Multimedia, including domain names,
inventory, marketing materials, patents, software,
trade dress and trademarks. "

Good luck. I do not see a lot of demand to "gamble while socializing ....", which is different than a demand to "socialize while gambling".

This product iteration, with its 2003 style graphics, is not going to meet the former type of demand nor improve upon traditional live poker in meeting the latter.

The hard part is convincing folks who are interested in socializing to concurrently gamble while they do that.

The idea that it can succeed/fit anywhere is misguided, it will not bring poker players in the door of anywhere. Its success would still depend upon a having critical mass of gamblers/players in the physical presence of the table.

i dont think it will catch on. i dont think the majority of people in the live settings are particularly fond of technology. also i prefer to take a break from staring at blue lights all day.

I think most live players want a dealer and real cards however I could see electronics chips (so you bet on the ipad) speeding up and simplifying things for the casino and player.

I believe the former owner of that company is now a s**tposter here in NVG.

handling chips and cards is part of the live experience. I want to see human players and human dealers.

We all spend enough time behind our computers and phones etc. Live poker is a reprieve from all this. just my 2c.

It's great for low-stakes PLO

You need a really good product to determine if this will really work or not. I haven't played on a pokertek table in years, but when I did there was a ton that could have been improved just from the standpoint of offering a standard poker game.

Creating an amazing product that offers a great user experience for standard poker is really just the starting point. You have to utilize the platform in some way(other than speed) to differentiate from standard poker. I don't know what that might mean(side games, networking, completely new poker variants that aren't normally possible,etc), but that's what they need to figure out.

I don't think there is much demand for this nor do I think this will draw in many new players.
The people who stand to gain the most from this would be casinos, they could get rid of most of their staff. I think the only way these would be "successful" is if this was a player's only option, i.e. an area where there was currently only 1 live room and they switched over completely. If people had no other option within a reasonable difference it wouldn't leave them much choice if they wanted to play live poker. They would have to weigh how much money they are saving vs how many players they might lose as a result.
I think when they tried to mix traditional tables and electronic tables that the electronic tables remained mostly unused and then were removed from many rooms.

Finally scooping massive pots with heaps of chips is just so satisfying. Personally, I live in south Florida, where there are plenty of room options, so if 1 room moved to these tables, i would most likely just play elsewhere.

All of these tables had to be uninstalled in Nevada a couple of years ago. The company acquired the old Pokertek assets and then didn't, wouldn't, or couldn't apply for a gaming license, according to multiple people I talked to when the Pokerpros made an unexpected exit from the Nevada market.

They were at Aliante and Plaza at the time.

I believe there is some truth to that

touche Thomazz. I lol'd. However, as is usually the case, you are only partially correct.

I know there is alot of truth to that.

this is spot on.

I think there is a market for this product if improved upon from the original devices. The problem is that they may be too prohibitively expensive to develop, manufacture and distribute to ever be viable, especially considering most of the action is micro limit and small MTTs/SNGs.

How many unit installs are possible in the US? That number is likely to be under 100.

I think it'd have to be literally a cyborg dealer, but with current technology that probably would be more expensive than a human dealer. Main challenge would probably be mechatronic dexterity of handling cards. Machine vision and programming solves pretty much all the other hurdles.

People want their chips and cards like mentioned above, also no way to have it be deal rigged within a reasonable doubt.

I think it could be bigger than that, but its a niche for sure. I don't really have any idea how the economics of it break down, but it seems to me that it would be a lot more efficient for one of the big slot manufacturers to make it work.

Its not going to work if you just target places that can't or won't have real tables. You've got to create a way to squeeze 1 in a lot of casinos with the craps and BJ machines.

That probably doesn't mean a 9-10 handed 1/2 NL game at a casino. You are going after a market that either can't support a poker room or already has a poker room. In either case you have to create a new offering.

IF this was installed in my hotel room in vegas then it could be different... playing in the bathtub or in bed would be so sick.

I have to say this sounds interesting to me, as someone who always felt more comfortable playing online poker than live poker. Granted, a lot of live poker fears are probably just psychological. I feel like removing physical aspects of cards and chips would give me a bigger edge vs. typical casino players. Not even sure I completely understand how this would work though.

Pokerpro tables failed at Crown too in Australia. There simply isn't the demand for the product even though on paper it's a good idea

We had them at charity poker and loved them for plo / omaha. We would get 40 hands an hour and the pot splitting was instantaneous.

Here in ON our Woodbine room is all PokerTek and everyone absolutely loves them, myself included... when I came across this video I got real excited about the possibility of a version 2.

Came to post it but I found this thread and was surprised to find not much interest... how is this not huge??

I used to have to play on those and though I didn't mind them, I always preferred live cards. It just feels different, even though it shouldn't. I like more hands, but I also like the aspect of the game that having to maneuver chips and cards brings.

I like the tactile, and would choose cards and chips over an LED screen every time.

Look at how close they're sitting to each other. GROSS! I can handle the bad beats, but not the bad breath. I love e-poker tables, but this is the worst implementation yet.

you still need cards and something that looks like a dealer to throw them at when you get a bad beat.
this might work if maybe they had paddles and those groundhogs that pop up so you can bash them instead.

Yeah I guess that really is what it comes down to, people want cards, and for sure it would never replace them for most games.

I still feel like these will have a place though. I felt the same way as most until I actually played the woodbine room... But realized they were at least "as good" as live and a perfect example of a room that wont run chips and cards but was willing to put pokertek in.

And that hands per hour!

I don't like it, except if the chips are real and automatically show the pot and bet sizes. It has had more or less time already, that makes it look some less likely that it will move up, except if the pokerrooms change to that in full and still get enough customers. For the rake we pay in the ROW, it is far less a good fit than in the USA (where they though have more options).