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That would make you at least 58-61. It was worth it to play during 2000-2005 even if you got scammed just because the games were so soft online.

Also live poker definitely has it's share of shadiness/cheating/collusion and there is zero way to police that.

i'll take the under

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09-14-2011 , 03:39 PM

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Rebuttle is now posted in HighStakes thread by Darren Woods, check it out.

Seems pretty convincing(his innocence) IMO.

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09-14-2011 , 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by crsseyed

Rebuttle is now posted in HighStakes thread by Darren Woods, check it out.

Seems pretty convincing(his innocence) IMO.

Well it does seem clear he multiaccounted on 888, thats one example of being dishonest.

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09-14-2011 , 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by livegrinder

That would make you at least 58-61. It was worth it to play during 2000-2005 even if you got scammed just because the games were so soft online.

Also live poker definitely has it's share of shadiness/cheating/collusion and there is zero way to police that.

i have only seen cheating one time in a live game in a casino. they caught the guy using the cameras, and he was immediately barred from the casino for 5 years

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09-14-2011 , 08:41 PM

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Notice how the cheats are being caught? These guys may have every $ they have in the account taken and returned to their victims. I've played in plenty of live games where people were colluding. The worst I've ever heard happening to them was that they were asked not to play at the same table for a couple weeks. The people they cheated never saw a dime. You must be unaware of the history of live poker to think that live poker = clean/fair games and online is the only place you might be cheated.

That said, not trusting that online games are fair is a fine reason not to play. It is interesting that you automatically assume live games are cleaner.

Been playing live for a long time now, and I must say the cheating can happen a lot easier online and on bigger scales like the UB scandal.

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09-14-2011 , 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by crsseyed

Rebuttle is now posted in HighStakes thread by Darren Woods, check it out.

Seems pretty convincing(his innocence) IMO.

Which part convinced you of innocence? He doesn't once mention being innocent in any of his thousands of words.
He goes from comparing his accusers to Hitler onto threatening to release chat logs and hand histories to prove other people also collude. In the middle he basically says there isn't enough evidence to prove he's guilty.

Not exactly the outcry one would expect from an "innocent" man.

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09-14-2011 , 10:19 PM

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Yeah, lol at the massive diatribe and then not even actually denying the allegations

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09-14-2011 , 10:38 PM

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He wrote exactly what a guilty man would write in that situation. When the facts are against you, attack the accusers. What a scumbag.

Another black eye for online poker as it involves another sponsored "pro" -- I think all sites that sponsor players should have a clause that if the player is ever shown to be cheating IN ANY WAY (multiaccounting is such a way to say nothing of what he also did) then they should be liable to pay back all sponsorship payments (to say nothing of the site doing its best to encourage criminal prosecution)

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09-14-2011 , 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by justonemoretime

He wrote exactly what a guilty man would write in that situation. When the facts are against you, attack the accusers. What a scumbag.

Exactly. He also acts as though he is the victim of a witch hunt when most people in the thread were defending him, with Ike doing a much better job than he did himself.

Then his defense is to insult everyone's intelligence saying "if I was colluding I would have folded AK vs AK". You can't fold there even doing a chip dump without raising suspicion. Then "a scammer wouldn't scam on the site where he is sponsored" Girah *cough* Russ Hamilton *cough*...

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09-15-2011 , 07:11 AM

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i have only seen cheating one time in a live game in a casino. they caught the guy using the cameras, and he was immediately barred from the casino for 5 years

So what you're saying is that live cheaters almost never get caught and punished but usually gets away unnoticed?

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09-15-2011 , 08:16 AM

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So what you're saying is that live cheaters almost never get caught and punished but usually gets away unnoticed?

not at all! what im saying is, there isnt a lot of cheating going on BECAUSE of the cameras

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09-15-2011 , 08:47 AM

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Shane Warne is gonna be livid when he hears of this.

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Originally Posted by sqwerty12

not to mention what he gets up to with Liz Hurley

Awwwwwwwwwww yeeeee-essssssssssssssssssss shy-ane

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09-15-2011 , 08:52 AM

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This slanderous claim is currently unprooven. Accusations like this are frivolous with the current evidence in question.

Please wait until further evidence has been documented and presented until claims like this can be made.

coming from a professional grimmer

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09-15-2011 , 09:31 AM

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I believe someone in the HL thread for this PROVED that Dooshcombag was multi-accounting about 5 minutes after Doosh said he never did so. He has no benefit of the doubt and you are acting the role of a "useful idiot."

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09-15-2011 , 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by justonemoretime

You do realise that 888 is a network with multiple skins and that it's perfectly legal to have multiple usernames across the various skins?

Several people seem overly eager to accuse Darren of whatever they can in this thread.

Either side could be proven correct in the end but I think a little objectivity is in order. Kinda surprising the thread title has been allowed to stay like it currently is for so long.

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09-15-2011 , 10:06 AM

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taken from a thread on "the other poker site":

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guy just has all the gold obviously and is shoving and winning every hand...except when tcblade is in the bb

this is with 7 left, 6 10k scoop seats given away

PokerStars Game #43201294156: Tournament #266403177, $665+$35 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXI (800/1600) - 2010/04/25 23:41:57 ET
Table '266403177 10' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: EZz_GAME (7474 in chips)
Seat 2: DooshDotCom (256039 in chips)
Seat 4: tcblade (4615 in chips)
Seat 5: JC Alvarado (8246 in chips)
Seat 6: ASPoker8 (9880 in chips)
Seat 7: driverseati (11170 in chips)
Seat 9: ZBTHorton1 (5576 in chips)
EZz_GAME: posts the ante 200
DooshDotCom: posts the ante 200
tcblade: posts the ante 200
JC Alvarado: posts the ante 200
ASPoker8: posts the ante 200
driverseati: posts the ante 200
ZBTHorton1: posts the ante 200
DooshDotCom: posts small blind 800
tcblade: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
JC Alvarado: folds
ASPoker8: folds
driverseati: folds
ZBTHorton1: folds
EZz_GAME: folds
DooshDotCom: folds
Uncalled bet (800) returned to tcblade
tcblade collected 3000 from pot

PokerStars Game #43201497116: Tournament #266403177, $665+$35 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (1000/2000) - 2010/04/25 23:50:09 ET
Table '266403177 10' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: EZz_GAME (4448 in chips)
Seat 2: DooshDotCom (264517 in chips)
Seat 4: tcblade (4515 in chips)
Seat 5: JC Alvarado (8192 in chips)
Seat 6: ASPoker8 (15480 in chips)
Seat 7: driverseati (2520 in chips)
Seat 9: ZBTHorton1 (3328 in chips)
EZz_GAME: posts the ante 250
DooshDotCom: posts the ante 250
tcblade: posts the ante 250
JC Alvarado: posts the ante 250
ASPoker8: posts the ante 250
driverseati: posts the ante 250
ZBTHorton1: posts the ante 250
DooshDotCom: posts small blind 1000
tcblade: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
JC Alvarado: folds
ASPoker8: folds
driverseati: folds
ZBTHorton1: folds
EZz_GAME: folds
DooshDotCom: folds
Uncalled bet (1000) returned to tcblade
tcblade collected 3750 from pot

PokerStars Game #43201497116: Tournament #266403177, $665+$35 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (1000/2000) - 2010/04/25 23:50:09 ET
Table '266403177 10' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: EZz_GAME (4448 in chips)
Seat 2: DooshDotCom (264517 in chips)
Seat 4: tcblade (4515 in chips)
Seat 5: JC Alvarado (8192 in chips)
Seat 6: ASPoker8 (15480 in chips)
Seat 7: driverseati (2520 in chips)
Seat 9: ZBTHorton1 (3328 in chips)
EZz_GAME: posts the ante 250
DooshDotCom: posts the ante 250
tcblade: posts the ante 250
JC Alvarado: posts the ante 250
ASPoker8: posts the ante 250
driverseati: posts the ante 250
ZBTHorton1: posts the ante 250
DooshDotCom: posts small blind 1000
tcblade: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
JC Alvarado: folds
ASPoker8: folds
driverseati: folds
ZBTHorton1: folds
EZz_GAME: folds
DooshDotCom: folds
Uncalled bet (1000) returned to tcblade
tcblade collected 3750 from pot

i'm not going to judge darren woods, but i think its pretty clear his past actions speak volumes about what kind of person he is. in this instance he is either colluding or trying to **** with the shortstacks when there is 10K on the line for each of them. what sort of person would do that?

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09-15-2011 , 11:42 AM

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Firstly, the guy is a sponsored "pro" and I am certain that such would be against his contract (or else why sponsor someone). Even so, and more importantly, he specifically denied multi-accounting and was proven a liar about 5 minutes later.

You are another "useful idiot."

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09-15-2011 , 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by L67C

Either side could be proven correct in the end but I think a little objectivity is in order. Kinda surprising the thread title has been allowed to stay like it currently is for so long.

Unless done by complete idiots, collusion in a cash game is always going to be a circumstantial case. Just as it's impossible to prove a well executed chip dump, neither side here will ever be proven correct.

The circumstantial evidence seems strong though, with 2 accounts playing limited P/F hands and most of them just happen to be against each other. Very peculiar that both accounts would view the other as a uniquely good spot after that many hands.

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09-15-2011 , 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by blueknight

not at all! what im saying is, there isnt a lot of cheating going on BECAUSE of the cameras

LOL

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09-15-2011 , 01:11 PM

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Shane Warne is gonna be livid when he hears of this.

lol

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09-15-2011 , 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AceIsHigh

taken from a thread on "the other poker site":

i'm not going to judge darren woods, but i think its pretty clear his past actions speak volumes about what kind of person he is. in this instance he is either colluding or trying to **** with the shortstacks when there is 10K on the line for each of them. what sort of person would do that?

I also made a thread about this a long time ago in mttc, and Stars said there just wasn't enough evidence. I'm still convinced in my mind to this day that I was unjustly colluded against, and that the direction the thread went with all the trolling that went on hurt my prospects at recovering my lost equity.

That thread is here for those curious:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...p-seat-769592/

Last edited by driverseati; 09-15-2011 at 11:43 PM.

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09-16-2011 , 08:31 AM

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His response was pretty dooshy, but believable perhaps? Anyways it shows he has some lack of ethics. A character trait which is common in scammers/cheaters.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=135

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09-16-2011 , 08:40 AM

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coming from a professional grimmer

bs I don't grim... I SS hit and run and everyone knows that. But I do not grim unless a player has done it to me...

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09-16-2011 , 10:06 PM

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Great post. Until I read that thread I couldn't imagine a scenario where a guy would play so -EV that he would have 6 other regs convinced he was colluding other than he was colluding.
After reading his "dooshy" response to your allegation I could easily see this guy thinking to himself "hey that's MY fish!" and attacking the rest of the table in a way that screams collusion but it's not.