LOL Mason the business expert giving free advice to a member of the DJIA, everyone take note!

Mason is so obsessed with negraneau it’s getting creepy

While Mason and I don't always agree, We agree here. DN is his own worse enemy.

On a side note. Thanks Mason for replying to threads with your own thoughts,

PF

you said that supporting the nike ad would backfire for renegs (which is pretty much impossible). perhaps you're implying the same thought process that leads to supporting the nike ad is what leads to other things that can backfire in more substantial ways, but thats either trolling or an extreme political bias. also, nike didn't make their decision on a whim and it's pretty likely that they made it purely from a profit maximizing standpoint. this isn't some mom and pop store making a stand or a fringe competitor taking a shot at carving a niche. they have so much more information than we do to make a decision like that, it's kind of ridiculous to even speculate on what happens. guess we'll see

TMZ beat you to the story:

"NIKE-Kaep Deal Adds Up: WE GOT NIKE'S CUSTOMER BREAKDOWN. Nike didn't just embrace Colin Kaepernick because of his views ... its market research was clear -- the race, age and political views of most Nike customers are in sync with the new ad campaign."

http://www.tmz.com/2018/09/06/colin-...ch/?adid=hero3

I think this thread should just be deleted or locked. This thread is a **** show and makes 2+2 look bad and Mason comes off even worse. Dnegs is a joke, we get it now get over it.

If the WSOP still played national anthems at bracelet ceremonies, would Griffin Benger take a knee?

What counts as "taking down" Negreanu? Is it going to affect how he plays poker? No. Is he going to lose any endorsements due to expressing a very mainstream opinion? I doubt it.

Would you rather have threads popping up left and right instead?

Daniel, Terrence & Adam brought up how poker sites may be moving in the direction of DEFAULT HEADS UP DISPLAYS for ALL online poker players in the future.

The conversation begins around the 1:02:00 mark of DAT Poker Podcast Episode #3 (published Sep 5, 2018).

(1:03:20) Daniel Negreanu: "I think this might be a little bit controversial but along those lines, I think this is something we’re going to look at in the future. With online poker [the question] is, ‘Do we want to take new players (or recreational [players]) and educate them so that they play better poker?’

‘Is there value in that?’ So the question is, a lot of these players who play now, it’s not like 2004. They deposit, they don’t come back. They have a bad experience, they lose or whatever, they’re not coming back.

Now if we were to educate them just a little bit and help them get better so that they might not be winning players but they at least feel like they’re learning something or taking their game to the next level, you’ll have the pushback from some of the people in the professional community [who] might be like, ‘Oh, well why do we educate the fish?’ It’s like, ‘Well, you want to educate them enough so that they keep coming back. So they exist, right?'"

when he's not scamming the community for 10 mega, renegs is the gift that keeps giving. i also find masons's posts super entertaining

I assume you will self-restrict yourself from further reading this thread then, correct?

This argument also supports the idea that writing poker books isn't bad for poker.

My take on Mason is he just finds poking at Negreanu amusing and feels he deserves it. The posts he makes about him probably only take a few minutes out of his day.

pretty much this. It also gives us some lols entertainement

Containment thread:

Thread that contains all posts re: title subject matter.

in the future -> HUD : Poker will be like Hotkeys : Starcraft. it's like giving amateur golfers a choice to use professional clubs.

Definition of irony: Idiot ventures into Dnegs containment thread to complain we are talking about Dnegs too much.

Marketing pure and simple, you really have to wonder how long the demographic will insist on being played. And oh yeah Nike is fighting several sexist and racial discrimination suits right now, can’t be anything to do with that.

Meanwhile, a piece of satire was much more thought-provoking:

“2018-09-04) — On the heels of its new ad campaign with former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick, Nike announced today it would “sacrifice everything” to benefit the urban Black community for which Kaepernick has become a champion.

When corporate officers saw the public response to the new ad slogan — “Believe in something. Even if it means sacrificing everything.“— they decided to “Just Do It.”

Starting today, Nike will put its $36.3 billion in annual revenue, and its U.S. employees, to work on behalf of inner-city communities hit hard by income inequality, by institutional racism, and most tragically, by President Trump’s Tweets about NFL players who kneel during the National Anthem.

Nike launched several new “sacrifice everything” initiatives, including, a commitment to…

1) Manufacture all of its products in U.S. inner cities like Detroit, MI, and Compton, CA, by the 3rd quarter of 2019.

2) Slash Nike shoe and gear prices so even the poorest of the poor can afford them.

3) Redistribute headquarters personnel from their suburban homes to urban-core communities where they’ll live, work, send their kids to public schools, and serve on late-night volunteer neighborhood-watch patrols.

4) Diversify its board of directors and executives in design, marketing, and sales, to mirror the racial and ethnic population proportions in the average U.S. inner city.

5) Donate every penny of profits to drug rehabs, tuition assistance and vocational training programs for inner-city youth.

“All of these ‘sacrifice everything’ initiatives put our money where our mouth is, and our feet on the move,” said a Nike spokesman. “We don’t want anyone to think Nike’s using Colin Kaepernick to appropriate ‘the struggle’ in some crass corporate way just to boost our $15.9 billion annual profit.”

http://scrappleface.com/blog/2018/09...ack-community/

Ugh. Why would you post that. "See, a woman is eating with me!"

Same reason Jeff Garcia took himself and Carmella out in public after Terrell Owens made his "looks like a rat and smells like a rat" comments.

Would just like to clarify something here.

The charity podcast itself was not a scam. Several people were involved in putting it on, and all but one of them had incredibly noble intentions to raise money for children stricken with the 22Q Deletion Syndrome.

Unfortunately, the person handling the money ("Jasep") embezzled it to fund his gambling habit.

Unfortunately, the good actions by many were ruined by one selfish and troubled individual.

This occurred in 2012. In subsequent years, the culprit was tracked down and heavily pressured (legally) to repay the money he stole. All of the money was eventually recovered and refunded to the donors. The person who put the most effort into the recovery of the funds (Brandon) was one of those involved in the podcast, and he put in countless hours over a long period of time to slowly extract that stolen money back from Jasep.

I will concede that 2+2 is/was correct to not allow third-party charity events to be promoted here. There are simply too many shady charities out there, and it is very difficult to ascertain which are legitimate and which are not. So I have no issue with Mason's refusal to allow it to be promoted here, even if the money hadn't ended up being stolen.

However, I will also state that Negreanu took part in this 22Q podcast because he really thought he was doing something positive, to help children with a terrible genetic condition. When Mason didn't allow this charity drive to be promoted here, Negreanu got overly emotional, hence the attacks. I'm not defending the things Negreanu said, but I do believe that Daniel legitimately felt that the poker community was coming together to help children, and that Mason was standing in the way.

This was also long before some of Daniel's more questionable actions with Pokerstars. Back in 2012, he was nearly universally liked and was seen as great for the game of poker. I believe his intentions in this situation were pure, albeit a bit too emotionally driven.

At the same time, I don't blame Mason for any of his actions in that situation, nor do I blame him for being angry at Daniel for the things he wrote.

Most charities are scams. They are either set up to give somebody or a group of people a job with a high paying salary, or some of the money is embezzled. I only give to well known established charitable organizations which make their books public so you can know their cost to run vs. actual money goes to that charitable cause.

And weren’t you a big supporter of this person?


And didn’t Brandon also refuse to take down those parts of the “Marathon Podcast” where I and 2+2 were being falsely attacked?

Okay

We don’t view it that way. To us this was just another attack from Negreanu.

What you state here is questionable. Based on some private conversations that I had before this time I suspect there were many more people uncomfortable with Negreanu than you realize.

And as long as you’re here writing about this stuff you should also mention that the most generous contribution to the 22Q foundation came from me. Of course, you did write that I must of had an ulterior motive for my donation since there was no way i’m a charitable person. However, at that time you didn’t know that my wife and I had already given away a great deal of money through our private foundation.

Don’t you think you owe the poker community for your role in this mess and your support of J Sep who stole the money?

Mason