SrslySirius and Doug Polk definitely have the upper hand here. They got the best of Daniel. The More Rake is Better was a genius move. Technically, Negreanu is in the right on both of these, but he is playing with fire here, much like when people take on Trump.

Daniel, they got the best of you. I will agree that they spun things to fit their narrative. Whether their goal was to make fun of you in a light-hearted way, or something more sinister (probably more sinister, but not exactly evil), they have maintained the upper hand from the start. I would not want to be in your shoes, but you can either 1) take the loss now, and hope this fades away faster than if you fight it (it will), or 2) Come up with a "get even" where they get the message, or 3) Sue them in court. Message board battling is only making it worse, because you are a multi-millionaire, at the top of the poker pyramid, generally acknowledged to be a good guy, reasonably young, and healthy. You should be able to find better things to do with your time, as you have essentially all activities on earth available to you at this moment. Why choose this?

Now, for 10K, I will develop a plan for you that ends this immediately (within a week). It will be done for good. For 5k per month I will be your PR guy, and this stuff will become a distant memory in short order. You are playing right into their hands.

DNegs transition from using "we" all the time when he speaks, to "he" all the time when he writes must feel like his brain is having an internal tug of war with itself!, with "I" caught in the middle. ;-)

The More Rake is Better attack was semantically twisted, and yes at low stakes recs will survive longer playing poker, but they also now do their brains more on casino and slot games, plus aspiring low stakes regs now find it harder to move up the stakes due to the higher rake thus damaging the eco system at higher tiers.

That is not Dnegs he would never ever mention Doug Polk on here he despises him and likes to act like he doesn't exist.

lol

Oh Danny Boy. Coward.

Hi Everyone:

Did anyone else notice this. In Post #1924 first notice the use of the word "he."

Then notice that it switches to "I."

Then in Post #1925 the word "he" comes back into play.

This is what happens when you edit too many books.

Best wishes,
Mason

Yeah very good spot! that "I" slipped in. Playing one's "we", "he" and "I", A game is one of the hardest poker variants to master!

It is looking more and more likely it is the man himself posting rather than someone doing it on his instruction, because of the "I", and because he's posting in such detail and with such fluency about the topics and with short time intervals between posts. Simply not enough time to properly brief a friend or employee between posts.

P.S. You two should make it up. It's a petty squabble blown out of proportion.

I hope you're aware by now that there are two major flaws in this argument. The first is that the economic systems that govern the two games at the different poker rooms are not static, but instead are dynamic. Specifically, this means that the poker room with the lower rake, when they see the game at the poker room down the street with the higher rake getting business, they'll most likely raise their rake. And the room with the higher rake, may feel that they better lower their rake before they lose their business.

Also, and this is very important, poker rooms need regular players to start games and keep games going, and the pros make up a good portion of the regular players. Thus, if you discourage the pros from playing, the recreational players may soon discover that instead of the game being better, it may not be going when they show up to play.

Mason

Also regs and pros can and do sometimes play badly, borrow money, play too high for their roll or their skill level, lose discipline, or can be victims to their ego, etc etc.

There are plenty of rec whales out their too who'll play if the games are there.

But if the cash game eco system is damaged from the bottom upwards, which is what is happening, as well as it being selectively damaged at specific tiers (e.g. mid stakes no rake back, and HU high rake) then games will cease to exist to service the two player types above.

That's gold, Daniel! Gold!

So, it is subjective. Like, that's just your opinion, man. We get to have one.

I'll never understand why someone that has had so much success, appears to be a pretty decent guy, and can do anything in life they want would waste time and energy on YouTube and social media showing off and taking digs at an ex. All for 50k views or whatever? If anyone is obsessed with you, it's you.

Not to mention, get mad when people have the opinion that he is being a D-bag about a few things. I mean, don't you kind of expect it? Won't it drive more people to you, anyway?

My subjective position is that you are insecure and starved for attention. You could always work on that part of yourself instead of "trying to get sexy."

Lol at announcing you have decided to have a kid at 44. I'm roughly the same age as you. Don't have kids (chickens for the win) and I'm trying to think back to times I might have said I want kids out loud in the past 10 years. Don't think I've declared it quite like you did, but a few times I said maybe, or it wouldn't be bad. If I'm honest with myself I only said those things to appear "normal" to the people/family I was talking to. You get to be in your mid 40s and decide it's the time to start having kids? And a few of them?

Wow, just wow. There are thousands of kids in foster care with 0% chance of getting adopted and you are gonna get sexy, find a gal who takes care of herself, and become a daddy? For such a staunch progressive I would think you would resist this ego driven urge. From a Christian who believes God's work is making babies, I would expect it. I'd take a hard look at my ego if I was you.

Always amazes me that people can have so much footage of themselves being cringy and just not see it. I embarrass myself on a daily basis and hardly anyone sees it. I still get embarrassed tho. Can't imagine what it would be like to have so much footage of it floating out in the universe.

Doug can be a tool, for sure. He's just a kid tho. You should be past all of this by now.

Getting waxed in your 40s is also weird. Like, that's just my opinion, man.

Either that's Daniel, it's a super fan who's protecting his honor, or he actually has a PR person doing this.

If it's Daniel - Come on man, at least proofread your posts to not make it so obvious it's you.

If it's a super fan - Come on man, you gotta find something else better to do with your time.

If it's a PR Person - Come on man, you're going to get fired pretty soon. Proper grammar and spelling should be #1 requirement for such a role right?

But that is the nature of life. If not, guys like Tiger Woods would have just retired with this 800 million and not torture himself making comebacks the last ten years. Pushing forward, and not settling, and never being truly satisfied, is what moves people and society forward. It's just that people who publicize their battles/journey can appear to be a little desperate, out of control, depressed, etc. Everybody does it, before a quick dash to the grave at the end. When the microscope zeroes in on anyone's actual reality, it usually isn't pleasant.

Most everyone is using smoke and mirrors and won't let on that they are struggling. Daniel is in meltdown mode, but he will rebound. I suggest that he do the courageous thing and drop all poker related activities and social media immediately. It will be the scariest thing he has ever done. Quit it all for a year. Lots of risk, but that is the only path out. He has the money to do it. It will be an endless chase to Hell without it, because if Daniel cannot feel good now, then what chance does he have to feel good? He got to the top of the mountain and now he is lost.

It happens all the time in most every industry. One of the sickest and scariest feeling out there, is to have financial success, or other career success, and to have that not quite be what you thought it was. It is likely similar to post partem depression, or the deflation after a wedding, but in this case, it is a longer journey to the top, so the whole journey feels like a waste of a life, even if outward appearances might suggest otherwise (unless you are blogging your journey to others).

You know what, I really like that Daniel is coming here (most likely)
I think large majority of the flak he gets is simply because he's not honest/open just hides from conversation, blocks people on twitter and quits public forums that aren't skewed and nice to him.

Maybe it's not possible because his bosses simply don't allow him to, but still I think it's very positive that you'd come here and be part of the community again instead of "me" against "them"

If that was actually you

Negreanu's losing sight of the big picture: The opinion of the General Public.

From the general public's point of view, Danny is a very well liked person, considered THE ambassador of poker, with ESP like powers of observation, and considered an extremely financially successful person, and poker expert.

The general public does not know EV, stack to pot ratios, ranges, GTO and whoever the heck is the best in cash games live and online.

Danny has earned his fame, public persona and social status. Like Hellmuth he has dedicated himself wholeheartedly for years in tournament play, the arena in which a poker player can maximize his fame towards the public. The public don't give a crap about the stuff the very few and obscure nitpickers that analyze in these forums, and that is okay and as it should be. I, for instance, don't care about the technical specifics of how movies and music are made. I just enjoy them and that's as it should be.

Instead of going down to doing debates with a very few and obscure nitpickers, Danny should bring back his focus to the big picture: Continue to build his great relationship with the general public. Hellmuth gets this. That's why he does not even get involved in micro debates with obscure and anonymous - and very few - insider nitpickers who would be faceless in public.

Good point about Hellmuth. That's what makes Hellmuth seem like Teflon. He is smart enough to not go down the rabbit hole. Just another example of Hellmuth doing it right. He does tournaments right. He seems to be one of the few who has a solid family/home life. Ultimate Bet is the one thing against him, but he has shrugged it off as best as he could. The few times Hellmuth has tried to engage in these smaller battles, like by adding his opinion about Chris Ferguson recently, he has looked awful. Maybe he is a genius of himself? Lol. Like the comedian Pat Cooper....."I am a genius of myself".

Is this what you meant by "photoshop"? lol wow. Showing a picture for a few seconds after a joke is a throwback, it's meant to fill in any viewers that don't get the reference, not to deceive. You're the only person I've seen interpret this as the car being there at a specific time.

It's hard to fit into the chorus of a song "If the rake is too high, and the pros are like 'well we can't beat this', then overall for the game, it's actually better." but I think the truncated version of the sentence keeps the same meaning.

You talk a lot about context, but this defense only helps you if we use the narrowest context possible, your hypothetical in a vacuum. The broader context here is that Amaya had just made a series of terrible player-hostile decisions, including a multi-million dollar scam, and you're on some podcast making these rake comments along with various other excuses for this terrible company.

The position of you and your company seems to be that pros need to be culled from the ecosystem, and this end is achieved with increased rake, new variants, slashing rakeback, and hurting them financially with broken promises. "**** the pros", right?

You mean like this one where you insist you did nothing wrong and claim that black people tell the best racist jokes?

its already obvious RenegsPR is Renegs, but he's also giving off the classic tell of answering all the easy questions ITT and dodging the hard ones.

its because Renegs never has and never will take a loss. not only did his mans Baazov get dinged for insider trading, but "exciting changes" on stars has been a huge flop. and this is ignoring the SNE debacle. any comment from deplorable Daniel? no.

there's a lot of baskets of deplorables, but Renegs is certainly in the so-far-up-his-own-ass-hes-lost-all-perspective-on-the-truth one.

That's some next level photoshopping, I'm impressed. You even got the reflection of the handicap sign on the top of the car.

If he'd just admit to wrongdoing and apologize he wouldn't recieve so much criticism. But lying and saying this image is photoshopped is insulting to our intelligence. Clearly not a photoshopped image as the reflection of the car has the handicap sign...

But maybe we should apply Hanlon's razor here. Perhaps DNEGS just doesn't remember parking in that spot so then he believes the image truly is photoshopped. It's possible.

I am the head of the PR division for Doug Polk. As you might have imagined its been a busy last month for us at HQ but I would like to represent his side in this discourse.

As much as Dnegs (err, I mean DnegsPR) would like to make this about if he technically did things to the full extent of what they "look like" or not, I would make the defense that the following things have all occurred.

- Argued that in some instances more rake is actually better

- Stuck with a company that ****ed over a bunch of people, including
- Their affiliates (cut off all deals)
- Their highest tier rewards members (SNE)
- Players at almost all stakes and game types by increasing rake for the same product
- Players at certain game types that were removed or made unbeatble

- Wore blackface (People fail to realize that this isnt as bad as it seems, he posted on his blog that his black friends said it was ok)

- Parked in handicapped spot (This is primarily for humor, but trying to argue that the picture is photoshopped is downright baffling)

- Has a history of lying and attacking tons of people (https://twitter.com/SrslySirius/stat...57666904170496 ) to name a few

- Continually makes claims he doesn't back up
- Exciting stuff coming up with 2017 Pokerstars
- Resignation is in play over SNE rewards
- Can beat $25/$50 in 2 weeks

There is no doubt that the team here works tireless to ensure that we put out the best representation of Doug Polk and my content, however it is hard to make good content without material. There is essentially never ending material here, and Dnegs continues to represent a company willing to do whatever it takes to bastardize poker and make more money, while at all points continuing to double down. For these reasons, Dnegs has, and will continue to, be a common subject matter for both informational and comedic content relative to the poker space for our youtube team to develop.

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This thread just got amazing. Thanks for being such an idiot that you couldn't even hold the "he" act together for 5 posts DN. Not that we didn't all know it was you instantly anyway, because really, who else would come to your defense?

Your more rake is better comment was not taken out of context. Every poster on 2P2 saw the same video and drew the same conclusion that SS did. You chose money over integrity and your reputation is toast for it. Time to move on and stop trying to hang on to the glory days when people still didn't know how shady you are.

Not that it is the big issue in this thread, but the whole "Blackface" thing is a nationwide joke. Unless it is done to mock or demean someone, it is not offensive (oh, but it has now become offensive).

That Daniel gets grief for that is a total disgrace. Look up the history of Blackface....it is nothing at all what it has developed into. At this point, even Halloween has been ruined, as you have to watch what costume you wear, especially if you have any recognition whatsoever. If Halloween, one of the most innocent fun holidays there is, can be ruined, then that is a shame.

Almost all references to blackface currently, are simply misguided attempts to make the targeted person's life miserable, or to spin a social justice warrior narrative. Certainly, there are examples out there where someone may exhibit their "true colors" by wearing a particular outfit, but Daniel is not one of those people. Daniel did nothing wrong there, at all. I stated in another thread that even Billy Crystal catches grief, for impersonating Sammy Davis Jr. at the Oscars years ago, and as part of his general comedy routine. That is how ridiculous it is. That was not, and is not blackface. Time to dial some of these things back a bit.

Ah, so there is still a chance that PokerStars will come to their senses and realize that you are more of a liability than a help and dump your thin-skinned, whiny, insecure, lonely, bullying ass.

The blackface thing is probably ill advised at worst tbh but it annoys me that whenever he speaks to a foreign player he puts on a silly accent rather than use his regular voice. Dude is an absolute clown.

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