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07-06-2018 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Just SageDonk, but he's​ got a terminal case of the dunning-krugers combined with an internet verbosity compulsion so he can't really help it.
Unlike you, if I disagree with someone's point of view or outlook, I do not come across as an aggressive, uncivil, nasty piece of work.

Hopefully the above is only your chat forum/on line persona and not how you are in real life.
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07-06-2018 , 02:16 AM
Unlike you who I'm sure still brags about winning that spelling bee in 2nd grade when told you made a spelling error.
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07-06-2018 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by NorsteinBeckler
I am a fan of DNegs, but there's no denying that he is the epitome of cringeworthy. If he doesn't fit that description, no one does.

Meanwhile I physically can't listen to Doug Polk talk. I have to turn him off after 10 seconds because of that thing he does where every sentence goes UPREALLYHIGH and then (falls off at the end). Where he TALKSREALLYFASTINAHIGHPITCHEDVOICE and then (talks low to end the sentence). Then he DOESITAGAININTHEEXACTSAMEWAY every (single sentence he says). It's the SAMEPATTERNOVERANDOVER and it (makes my ears hurt).

Know what I mean?

But this is the DNegs thread. DNegs is basically an effete cringey wormy little guy who made millions playing poker, and not because of his math skills. He started out as a pool hustler. Don't take him at face value. Beyond that, he is what he is and he's not that bad. I always root for him.
Man, do you sound like s dick.
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07-06-2018 , 05:54 AM
Seriously guys, what do you think abt his post busto reaction.
IMHO it translated his "inner him". The fact that he s always promoting on being a nice guy etc (even if we all know that no human can always be like that) but then openly says that he s more than steaming and willing "to shove chips in every player mouth" after that beat, reveals his temper imho. I totally get the sellout thing etc but at the same time i was badly surprised that he wasnt able to control himself. He acted like a younger impulsive player revealing a part of his mindset imo
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07-06-2018 , 06:14 AM
His exit speech re chip shoving, etc

Was that more about it being the main event and describing how hard it is to be knocked out of this particular tourney?

Also I think it’s too easy to read too much into things.... he was knocked out of the one he wants the most... he held himself well, after such a tourney... such a WSOP.... surely?
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07-06-2018 , 06:19 AM
I expect him to act like any other poker player, with complete disgust about how he lost. It takes a monk to take the beats in poker with absolutely no saltiness imo.
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07-06-2018 , 08:06 AM
Do you even play poker swissodds?
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07-06-2018 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington
I expect him to act like any other poker player, with complete disgust about how he lost. It takes a monk to take the beats in poker with absolutely no saltiness imo.
Danny's response to the cruel and legit bad beat that ended his most highly anticipated and prepared for event of the year was world class stoic. Many players on TV have responded with devastation and childishness throughout the years with let downs that were much less intense and brutal.

It was a response very consistent with being the all time money winner in poker tournament history.
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07-06-2018 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemon93PCTSure
Do you even play poker swissodds?
Only scrabble
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07-06-2018 , 09:09 AM
How can he bust on day 1 after spending 3 month in teh lab and playing GTO all day? Dis is outrageous mates.
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07-06-2018 , 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by swissodds
Seriously guys, what do you think abt his post busto reaction.
IMHO it translated his "inner him". The fact that he s always promoting on being a nice guy etc (even if we all know that no human can always be like that) but then openly says that he s more than steaming and willing "to shove chips in every player mouth" after that beat, reveals his temper imho. I totally get the sellout thing etc but at the same time i was badly surprised that he wasnt able to control himself. He acted like a younger impulsive player revealing a part of his mindset imo
I think it was a sign that he is still human. I am sure most people in this board have acted much worse or had darker thoughts after being busted out.
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07-06-2018 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PLIKITYPLAK
I think it was a sign that he is still human. I am sure most people in this board have acted much worse or had darker thoughts after being busted out.
I think you are right and i do agree with you. My point was more abt the dichotomy between what Daniel always pretends to be (always nice genuine happy etc...) and the fact that suddenly he s back to humanoïde mode with a visible will to shove stuff in someone s mouth. I also think that the way i formulated my sentence was suboptimal. Sorry abt that
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07-06-2018 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by swissodds
Seriously guys, what do you think abt his post busto reaction.
IMHO it translated his "inner him". The fact that he s always promoting on being a nice guy etc (even if we all know that no human can always be like that) but then openly says that he s more than steaming and willing "to shove chips in every player mouth" after that beat, reveals his temper imho. I totally get the sellout thing etc but at the same time i was badly surprised that he wasnt able to control himself. He acted like a younger impulsive player revealing a part of his mindset imo
emotions bro, did you hear of it?

even bringing this up, seriously?
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07-06-2018 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ouinosino
emotions bro, did you hear of it?

even bringing this up, seriously?
As said itlp i didnt fomulate my sentence correctly. I agree with you though. Pointless post on my part
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07-06-2018 , 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
Danny's response to the cruel and legit bad beat that ended his most highly anticipated and prepared for event of the year was world class stoic. Many players on TV have responded with devastation and childishness throughout the years with let downs that were much less intense and brutal.

It was a response very consistent with being the all time money winner in poker tournament history.
^^
Lol

His response was one of entitlement. "How can someone like me possibly bust the main event on day 1, jeez, so many things have to go wrong and happen at the same time for such a fate to befall such a titan as I"

And he made an overly big deal of being card dead for a whole six 2 hours levels or whatever it was. Being card dead for 3, 4, or 5 comps on the spin is not uncommon, especially in NLHE.

The commentators did their best to put a positive spin on his whingeing but that is part of their role, to be nicey-nicey (neutral) about all players regardless of their conduct or if they played a hand badly.

It's a family show and all that, and the WSOP has to project as a fun and friendly experience above all else.

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07-06-2018 , 10:25 AM
Is there anywhere you can pull up the exit speech? Was it on PokerGo or ESPN at the time? Or in the Vlog?

I think the Vlogs have shown a few kinks in the personality armor. It will be very interesting to see if he continues them next year. It was more of a task most days ... and certainly not doing well has to make it much harder to create upbeat content.

He has cashed 3 'only' times v PHell's 5 times, but for more $$ (90k v 25k)... not sure on PHell's BI status but would have to assume it's less. I think Phil skipped the PPC and maybe a $10K or two along the way.

They certainly have an interesting dynamic. Sometimes I think they are working together in a good cop/bad cop fashion and others times I think they are just a couple of stars trying to fight for as much of the spotlight as they can .. even if it means jumping into the other's. I'm sure DNegs has an opinion on PHell's staking of MMouth in both cash and tournaments as well, but we will probably never hear it.

I've missed the last few Vlogs .. will need to catch up on them .. GL
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07-06-2018 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey
^^
Lol

His response was one of entitlement. "How can someone like me possibly bust the main event on day 1, jeez, so many things have to go wrong and happen at the same time for such a fate to befall such a titan as I"

And he made an overly big deal of being card dead for a whole six 2 hours levels or whatever it was. Being card dead for 3, 4, or 5 comps on the spin is not uncommon, especially in NLHE.

The commentators did their best to put a positive spin on his whingeing but that is part of their role, to be nicey-nicey (neutral) about all players regardless of their conduct or if they played a hand badly.

It's a family show and all that, and the WSOP has to project as a fun and friendly experience above all else.
He wasn't whining. He was merely being objective about the statistics of what befell him. Negreanu is definitely one of the most stoic bad beat responders in all of poker. Among the poker vloggers he is most definitely number one. Other vloggers that respond to bad beats well are Andrew Neeme, the Trooper, and Johnnivibes. The rest are about equal in the level of their stoicism.
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07-06-2018 , 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Registered 2018
He wasn't whining. He was merely being objective about the statistics of what befell him. Negreanu is definitely one of the most stoic bad beat responders in all of poker. Among the poker vloggers he is most definitely number one. Other vloggers that respond to bad beats well are Andrew Neeme, the Trooper, and Johnnivibes. The rest are about equal in the level of their stoicism.
I like his vlogs too, I think they are great and are compulsive viewing. I also respect him a lot for his achievements in poker.

Sorry to disagree though. He does come across as entitled on the vlogs and quite self absorbed. For example often talking about himself in the third person, "we, this", "we, that". Who is "we" exactly (is it the Royal we?). He doesn't have any backers so using we is odd.

(Doug Polk has also started using "we" a little, which I also think isn't great, although Doug tends to have a giveaway most of the time so at least has some people other than himself that are financially interested in the result.)

And the goal setting thing for a game where you maybe have ~30% control over your day to day results destiny also points towards being self absorbed by a certainty of one's superiority.

I noticed in the most recent vlog that he isn't using the word goal any more and has replaced it with the word intention.

Highlight of the vlog was when Joe Stapleton with a mischievous look on his face asked him about his "intention" for the day. There are no flies on Stapes and it was a clever piece of subtle comedy, facilitated by Mason Malmuth's criticism of "goal setting" in this very thread.

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07-06-2018 , 12:24 PM
‘intention’ is more insufferable passive aggression from dnegs
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07-06-2018 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
Daniel is a thin-skinned, narcissistic, backstabbing sellout.

He's also a no-brainer first ballot HOFer. There's really no argument.
Agree 100%.
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07-06-2018 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Army Eye
if you're with somebody for four years, it hurts either way
Not necessarily. I was with someone for 11 years and when it ended I felt free and absolutely ****ing fantastic.
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07-06-2018 , 12:43 PM
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‘intention’ is more insufferable passive aggression from dnegs
Loving how Mason got under his skin and he changed his presentation thereby admitting Mason was correct.

If Dnegs had a spine and convictions he would have stuck with goals.
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07-06-2018 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SageDonkey

Sorry to disagree though. He does come across as entitled on the vlogs and quite self absorbed. For example often talking about himself in the third person, "we, this", "we, that". Who is "we" exactly (is it the Royal we?). He doesn't have any backers so using we is odd.
It seems totally standard to me when people relate hand histories in first-person-plural. I'm not sure why this ever developed, but DN is is far from alone in doing this, and I don't think it has anything to do with whether or not you have backers.
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07-06-2018 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Videopro
Loving how Mason got under his skin and he changed his presentation thereby admitting Mason was correct.

If Dnegs had a spine and convictions he would have stuck with goals.
Mason should expand on his views on "goals" with a comprehensive article or even a short book. Get into "self help" publishing in a small way. Seriously.
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07-06-2018 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
It seems totally standard to me when people relate hand histories in first-person-plural. I'm not sure why this ever developed, but DN is is far from alone in doing this, and I don't think it has anything to do with whether or not you have backers.
It's a "play a hand/session with me" thing, which is perfectly fine.
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