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08-03-2019 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by illdonk
“This stranger and nobody but this stranger is filled with hate and anger!” the irrationally bitter angry guy repeatedly insisted.
Daniel Negreanu goes on a v blog and threatens to grab by the throat those who disagree with him, then punch them in the face.

I don't see any of the readers of his posts threatening him with physical violence.

So, who is the irrationally bitter angry hating one - Negreanu or someone pointing out his threatening behaviour, that would be subject to arrest if he tried to do that in person to anyone?

He is a wimp, talking big, then saying, "hey, I was only joking" when confronted with his classless behaviour. He has already been divorced twice, there comes a point where one has to realise the fault can't always be with the other person. Unless of course one's idol and role model is Rocky, a boxer who never even existed.
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08-03-2019 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NooooBingo
Because you have to have overseas residence too. Not just be visiting a country. Daniel, and many American poker players, have residence in the US as well as Canada, Mexico or somewhere else.
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You cannot have residency in two place. Residence is defined by where you live most of the year. You can have a residence, and you can change your residence, but you can't for example live in NYC most of the year and claim to be have residency in Florida during the winter.
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08-03-2019 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
You cannot have residency in two place. Residence is defined by where you live most of the year. You can have a residence, and you can change your residence, but you can't for example live in NYC most of the year and claim to be have residency in Florida during the winter.
You're being a huge nit and intentionally obtuse. Obviously people mean you just need proof of an address somewhere other than America.
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08-03-2019 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
You're being a huge nit. Obviously people mean you just need proof of living somewhere other than America.
It's possible Poker Stars has a different standard than the IRS, state tax authorities, and DMV etc. Absolutely.

However, just because you own a residence in another country, and visit that residence, does not make you a resident. It makes you a visitor. The fact that you own a residence in a legal country might be okay with poker stars.

However, I suspect that if you or I wrote poker stars support, and said I am a full time resident of Florida, and I own a home in England and live there three months out of the year, may I play on your site when I am in England, I suspect the answer would be no.
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08-03-2019 , 03:06 PM
I suspect that you would be wrong on that example.
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08-03-2019 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Videopro
I suspect that you would be wrong on that example.
I suspect your suspicions may bear fruit. Betting on me is -ev.

I've asked poker stars support, if I hear back I'll let you know that I am wrong.

In any case, I suspect Danny did not own or rent property in a legal country when he played on Poker Stars dot com and that he just hopped over and visited, which is what I asked PStars about in the past and they said was forbidden for American residents.

Also, Danny had I think an account on PokerStarsNJ and PokerStarsdotcom and I think you are supposed to have an account only on one service.

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Originally Posted by .isolated
You're being a huge nit and intentionally obtuse. Obviously people mean you just need proof of an address somewhere other than America.
No, I am assuming (perhaps wrongly) that PStars applies the same definition to residence as the law does in the US. I am assuming this only because PStars was under a legal agreement with the DOJ to prevent residents of the United States from playing on their site. It seems logical to me that PStars would not intentionally violate the terms of their agreement with the DOJ.

No doubt a resident of the US like me or you could get away with claiming to live at an address in a legal country. But if you or I did so, and then pointed out to PStars that you were in fact a permanent resident of the US only overseas temporarily, I suspect they'd close the account regardless of whether you stayed in a hotel, or owned or rented a house.

Would it be fairly easy to get away with registering overseas and hoping PokerStars didn't find out you were a resident of the US? Of course. They don't know me. But they did know that Danny is a permanent resident of Nevada.

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08-03-2019 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
However, I suspect that if you or I wrote poker stars support, and said I am a full time resident of Florida, and I own a home in England and live there three months out of the year, may I play on your site when I am in England, I suspect the answer would be no.
and you would be wrong.
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08-03-2019 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
However, I suspect that if you or I wrote poker stars support, and said I am a full time resident of Florida, and I own a home in England and live there three months out of the year, may I play on your site when I am in England, I suspect the answer would be no.
You would be wrong, answer is not going to be no. If you can prove residency with a document (e.g. utility bill), you can play from England.

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Originally Posted by inmyrav
Also, Danny had I think an account on PokerStarsNJ and PokerStarsdotcom and I think you are supposed to have an account only on one service.
You can have account on multiple sites with no problem.
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08-03-2019 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CoreySteel
You would be wrong, answer is not going to be no. If you can prove residency with a document (e.g. utility bill), you can play from England.
Sure, if you ARE IN FACT a resident of England. You are not a resident of England if you a resident of Nevada. You cannot be a resident of two places at the same time. Residency doesn't move with you when you visit another country, just as it doesn't move with you when you go from NY to Florida for the winter and try to claim Florida residence to save income taxes.

You are not a resident of England simply because you can produce a utility bill. Owning a residence in a country and visiting that residence for a portion of the year does not make you a resident of that country. You can claim it, and poker stars will accept it ... unless you tell them that you lied when you signed up and they asked what your country of residence is.


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Originally Posted by CoreySteel
You can have account on multiple sites with no problem.
Excellent! Good news.
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08-03-2019 , 04:17 PM
You're wrong and you have no idea what you're talking about. You're conflating the legal definitions of words with Stars policy. In your example you can absolutely play on PokerStars. Stop derailing the thread
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08-03-2019 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay Why
He is a wimp, talking big, then saying, "hey, I was only joking" when confronted with his classless behaviour. He has already been divorced twice, there comes a point where one has to realise the fault can't always be with the other person.
When Deeb made his "classless" divorce joke/propbet it was really funny how offended he was on behalf of Amanda and how he viewed it as a huge insult to her. It had nothing to do with her!
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08-03-2019 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
Sure, if you ARE IN FACT a resident of England. You are not a resident of England if you a resident of Nevada. You cannot be a resident of two places at the same time. Residency doesn't move with you when you visit another country, just as it doesn't move with you when you go from NY to Florida for the winter and try to claim Florida residence to save income taxes.

You are not a resident of England simply because you can produce a utility bill. Owning a residence in a country and visiting that residence for a portion of the year does not make you a resident of that country. You can claim it, and poker stars will accept it ... unless you tell them that you lied when you signed up and they asked what your country of residence is.
Sorry, I guess it's a language barrier and I shouldn't have used "residency". ****ed it up. Let me give you a real life example.

Three years ago PokerStars exited Slovenian market. Bunch of people went and rent a place in either Austria or Croatia. They provided either internet bill or rent papers as a proof of address and they could play. I was also toying with an idea to do the same, because I could commute to Austria (~1h drive), but eventually decided not to do it.

You don't actually need to be "active resident" of other country. Just of of the borders with a proof.
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08-03-2019 , 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
When Deeb made his "classless" divorce joke/propbet it was really funny how offended he was on behalf of Amanda and how he viewed it as a huge insult to her. It had nothing to do with her!
He is a determined man chasing happiness. I like Daniel, was very privileged to play with him before the PS/FT merge. Good man! Amanda better appreciate him!
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08-03-2019 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxo
He is a determined man chasing happiness. I like Daniel, was very privileged to play with him before the PS/FT merge. Good man! Amanda better appreciate him!

You are right, she had better appreciate him, or he may threaten her in the same way he threatened his viewers. With such behaviour, no wonder Pokerstars dumped him.
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08-04-2019 , 01:44 AM
I don't have much time to go into your journey on the hatred thread towards Daniel. I work and have fun! He is a very cool guy. You guys really need need to get a life instead of commenting on him all day!
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08-04-2019 , 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay Why
Daniel Negreanu goes on a v blog and threatens to grab by the throat those who disagree with him, then punch them in the face.

I don't see any of the readers of his posts threatening him with physical violence.

So, who is the irrationally bitter angry hating one - Negreanu or someone pointing out his threatening behaviour, that would be subject to arrest if he tried to do that in person to anyone?

He is a wimp, talking big, then saying, "hey, I was only joking" when confronted with his classless behaviour. He has already been divorced twice, there comes a point where one has to realise the fault can't always be with the other person. Unless of course one's idol and role model is Rocky, a boxer who never even existed.

You obviously have nothing better to do, LMFAO
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08-04-2019 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxo
You obviously have nothing better to do, LMFAO
You obviously have nothing better to do, LMFAO.
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08-04-2019 , 04:04 AM
LOLOLOL the hate is pathetic. I hardly comment here u idiot. I do stand up for people I care for.
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08-04-2019 , 04:37 AM
Whats the new big deal with Daniel?
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08-04-2019 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by xoxoxo
LOLOLOL the hate is pathetic. I hardly comment here u idiot. I do stand up for people I care for.
well you criticise me for commenting and having nothing better to do, yet you have posted more than me on this site, so whatever you say about me applies more strongly to you, yet you are too stupid to realise this. Why do you care about Negreanu, he only cares for himself, and only does stuff he benefits from. And he doesn't need your support as he can fight his own fights, by grabbing anyone who disagrees with him by the throat and punching them in the face. A real ambassador for the sport.
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08-04-2019 , 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay Why
well you criticise me for commenting and having nothing better to do, yet you have posted more than me on this site, so whatever you say about me applies more strongly to you, yet you are too stupid to realise this. Why do you care about Negreanu, he only cares for himself, and only does stuff he benefits from. And he doesn't need your support as he can fight his own fights, by grabbing anyone who disagrees with him by the throat and punching them in the face. A real ambassador for the sport.
+1. But anyone who gets hair plugs is generally not going to be a violent person.
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08-04-2019 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jay Why
So, who is the irrationally bitter angry hating one - Negreanu or someone pointing out his threatening behaviour, that would be subject to arrest if he tried to do that in person to anyone?
Is that second person you? Because I'm still picking you.
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08-04-2019 , 11:50 AM
Could Daniel win a NL tourney if he were only dealt a single card and his opponents were dealt two

I say absolutely
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08-04-2019 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by $ick of Being Rich
Could Daniel win a NL tourney if he were only dealt a single card and his opponents were dealt two

I say absolutely
I'm afraid not as the rules clearly state that you must show both hole cards to win a hand (unless all other players involved in the hand muck their cards.)
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08-04-2019 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by THAY3R
When Deeb made his "classless" divorce joke/propbet it was really funny how offended he was on behalf of Amanda and how he viewed it as a huge insult to her. It had nothing to do with her!
Deebs prop bet was the stone cold nuts
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