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07-21-2019 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Atinat
VPNs are not difficult, nor do they require poker knowledge to set up. Degens absolutely are capable and willing to set up VPNs to play online.
Regardless, the barrier was not erected for competitive purposes, no matter who is willing to cross it to play. If negreanu showed up to my local casino's 1/2 game, he would negatively effect everyone's equity, but if he wants to come here, he is allowed to. If negreanu wants to travel to Mexico to play, he is allowed to. They haven't banned negreanu, or any Americans for the sake of being American.
Relly? Every time I tried using a VPN in the past, the website or whatever was able to detect it pretty easily and would not allow me to log in.
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07-21-2019 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
So all those US players who go to PCA and play on PokerStars whilst they are in the Bahamas have registered as residents of the Bahamas?
Or you’re totally wrong about ‘Danny’ getting an ‘exception’.
I don't know and haven't spoken to anyone who did that.

I suspect they lied about their residence when they filled out the form on stars by putting something other than their legal residence. I believe Danny got an exception (and not the only one) because it appears he lives in Vegas year round and stars knows this but allowed him to play there anyway, which is why he has the Canadian flag.

https://dmvnv.com/newresident.htm

I did ask an announcer on PStars broadcast about it and iirc they said when Danny is not in america his residency follows him because he is canadian or something? I forget exactly.

According to PStars support they treat Americans as residents of the us if they live here under from what I can tell is the same criteria the motor vehicle bureau uses for licensing. If you are a snowbird and spend five months a year in Florida you are required to have driver's and vehcile licenses in your home state. If Florida is your home state and you travel a lot then you should have permant domicile in Florida that is year around

Are you cheating your insurance (car and health) by not abiding by their guidelines? Yes.

Are you cheating other drivers and insuree's by changing the ev (cost) of the their policies (by less than pennies usually)? Yes.

If I knew how to vpn on pstars would i play there? Yes. I am a losing player and want to play on pstars for the mix games. I play on carbbon now. But no badugi or 27 nl or llmit. Or much horse etc.

Last edited by Mike Haven; 07-22-2019 at 02:05 AM.
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07-21-2019 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by auralex14
Playing in an underground game isn't unethical at all--running one may be depending on your rake
It is unethical as far as the rest of society is concerned whenever you break the law.

As poker is concerned I guess, which is to say, does it affect baseball if I play illegally on a restricted playground that says no ball playing allowed? I suppose it is bad for the game because it promotes the idea that poker ro baseball is an underground game and not legitimate. So in that sense it is unethical.
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07-22-2019 , 09:02 PM
Thank god daniel has left PS so he can give more opinions without the fear of reprisal
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07-23-2019 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
It is unethical as far as the rest of society is concerned whenever you break the law.

As poker is concerned I guess, which is to say, does it affect baseball if I play illegally on a restricted playground that says no ball playing allowed? I suppose it is bad for the game because it promotes the idea that poker ro baseball is an underground game and not legitimate. So in that sense it is unethical.
Really?? Legal does not imply ethical and illegal does not imply unethical where I'm from.
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07-23-2019 , 08:17 AM
I welcome pros VPN'ing into my games as long as they're not botting. Overall liquidity is more important than the pipe dream of playing online in rec infested games in 2019. F*** Stars and f*** whoever made it illegal to play in the first place, as edgy as that sounds.
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07-23-2019 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mrno1324
F*** Stars and f*** whoever made it illegal to play in the first place, as edgy as that sounds.
you can thank the owner of Sands, Sheldon Adelson, for influencing online poker to become illegal in the USA....but keep on playing at Venetian and supporting this old crony
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07-23-2019 , 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mrno1324
I welcome pros VPN'ing into my games as long as they're not botting. Overall liquidity is more important than the pipe dream of playing online in rec infested games in 2019. F*** Stars and f*** whoever made it illegal to play in the first place, as edgy as that sounds.
What about someone like Brian Hastings using a fish’s account?
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07-23-2019 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by uncleriver
you can thank the owner of Sands, Sheldon Adelson, for influencing online poker to become illegal in the USA....but keep on playing at Venetian and supporting this old crony
Some people are better off just looking stupid, rather than opening their mouth and removing all doubt.
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07-23-2019 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
Some people are better off just looking stupid, rather than opening their mouth and removing all doubt.
It’s pretty funny how no one seems to blame the shady ass poker sites who ran Ponzi schemes that stole money. Instead we get “But muh adelson”
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07-23-2019 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by persianpunisher
It’s pretty funny how no one seems to blame the shady ass poker sites who ran Ponzi schemes that stole money. Instead we get “But muh adelson”
Or no one seems to blame Obama/Holder/Bharara, the actual source of Black Friday...but as you said we get "meh Adelson supports Trump, he must be to blame"....idiots LOL.
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07-23-2019 , 02:57 PM
Maybe Dnegs will speak in front of congress and they’ll let us play online poker again.
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07-23-2019 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFly
Or no one seems to blame Obama/Holder/Bharara, the actual source of Black Friday...but as you said we get "meh Adelson supports Trump, he must be to blame"....idiots LOL.
You need a history lesson son. Yes, Obama was in office when the SDNY acted but you're ignoring who passed and signed the UIGEA into law to begin with.
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07-23-2019 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jelloman
You need a history lesson son. Yes, Obama was in office when the SDNY acted but you're ignoring who passed and signed the UIGEA into law to begin with.
Creating a law and enforcing it are two separate issues.

No one cited for jay walking cares how the jay walking statute ended up on the books, just that there's a frivolous beat cop citing jay walkers.

There's no excuses or any way around it, Obama/Holder/Bharara decided to come down with the heavy hand when other administrations did not.
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07-23-2019 , 03:41 PM
Who wouldn't vote to make our ports safe though???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAFE_Port_Act
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07-23-2019 , 04:18 PM
This is not the thread for another post-post-post-post-mortem on the demise of online poker in the USA. At this point I am not sure that there is any place in NVG for such a discussion, especially as it will inevitably devolve into half-truths, misinformation, and diatribes on the "politics" of the UIGEA and Black Friday.

Thank you very much.
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07-26-2019 , 11:03 AM
Yea, I would welcome Brian Hastings at my table.

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07-27-2019 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
It is unethical as far as the rest of society is concerned whenever you break the law.

As poker is concerned I guess, which is to say, does it affect baseball if I play illegally on a restricted playground that says no ball playing allowed? I suppose it is bad for the game because it promotes the idea that poker ro baseball is an underground game and not legitimate. So in that sense it is unethical.
Rubbish
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07-28-2019 , 03:51 AM
Does anyone have any idea when is dnegs team going to process the payouts? Havent found any info about that
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07-28-2019 , 09:55 AM
I just got it with PayPal yesterday but it is pending for a few days.
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07-28-2019 , 09:04 PM
Dnegs no invite for London? he'll be butthurt if Bonomo ships it and moves like $20m in front at the top of the earnings list!
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07-28-2019 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfunnywobbl
News Flash, it’s not illegal to play poker in Texas, it’s illegal to host a game and rake pots. There are lots of Cardrooms in Texas where players join a club and pay a seat rental fee.
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07-29-2019 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuma
Maybe Dnegs will speak in front of congress and they’ll let us play online poker again.
Hey, that is not a bad idea! He can take his buddy Jason Somerville too. Jason used to be very active in trying to get online poker legal again. Maybe he still is, just don't hear much about him anymore.
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07-30-2019 , 08:20 AM
Funny how he has been silent on online poker for years and now his stars deal has run out he is an expert again. Clown.
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07-30-2019 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
Wrong.

You are not allowed to play PStars as a resident in the usa. That means you live in Las Vegas most of the year, for example. You can't simply go overseas and play on PStars unless you are moving overseas.

PStars was very clear that people who live in the US cannot play on PStars when in Europe or w/e during vacation if their residence is in the US. Ask them.

I asked many times why Danny was given an exception but money talks.
You're wrong. As long as you have residency in a country that PS operates in, you can play on PS as an American. That's why Daniel can live in LV (and is a resident), but can still play on PS when in Toronto as he has residency there too.

No way Stars gave him an exception to play on the site when in LV. They wouldn't risk their NJ license and other potential US licenses for that.
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