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03-13-2019 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nickjehz
that animals that end-up at PETA will most likely be killed.. because they love them. Oh and because its profitable..
Not just for profit and love, PETA believes that ownership of pets is akin to slavery, euthanization is actually setting the animals free.
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03-13-2019 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ALLNITSGOBROKE
I have a 2yo filly currently in training who will make her debut in the middle of this summer if all goes well and another on the farm who will be returning to training next month and should run at the end of summer, I've had atleast 1 in training every year for over 10 years now. Every one I've ever had I've spent countless hours with at the barn when they're in training or at the farm when they're not, sadly alot of owners don't care. More importantly as far as my knowledge i worked on the backstretch myself for several years so i have spent more than a "second of time" on a backstretch. I agree a good groom can handle 4-5 a day at most. I don't know what tracks you've been at or what kind of gyp operations you've been around where there are only 3 grooms for 40 head, I've seen alotta crazy and dumb stuff so i don't doubt it especially at a place where the money is absolute crap. Even if a groom is making only $500 a week that money is worth a helluva lot more back home if they're not from the US.

The current betting public doesn't seem to mind too much apparently as handle has gone up the last 4 years with 2018 actually being the biggest increase of those 4 years. Racing will never completely die, in some places it already has or is in the process of and in others it will always be around, maybe less tracks overall but never completely gone. There is still a market for racing itself and since you're educated enough I'm sure you know how much money is in breeding and the sales.

I don't entirely agree with the whole chemist argument. Like poker there is alot of "dumb money" in horseracing. Yes a fair amount do try and cheat but alot of those who do still can't win and there are some who cheat and win at astronomical rates, still though alot of dumb money in the sport. You do have to be racing at a place where the purses are good and there are quite a few in the country now thanks to some tracks getting casinos. A lot of people don't know how to buy or breed horses properly, don't know how to spot their horses properly, overrun them and most of all can't train properly. You have a guy like Ken Mcpeek who's won how many graded stakes including grade 1's in his career and he was the leading trainer in the US last year as far as horses who didn't even race on lasix. Overseas alot of those horses come from places where you're allowed zero raceday meds and they come over here and win BC races on the grass like they're going out of style. You can win the "right way" if you have a trainer who can actually train and you're smart and realistic(which alot of owners aren't) about where to run your horses.

Last but not least you will get zero disagreement from me that horseracing has sadly been continuously shooting itself in the foot(just like poker has)


Well written and I wish you luck with the filly. You are correct . Most of my time was spent at Class C tracks where the horses are treated like a throwaway toy . Yet unfortunately that is the majority of tracks racing in the USA today.

The racing in other countries that actually implement rules and do things correctly are most impressive. I've seen the horses you speak of come here and win . Trained correctly . Yet here in our country I seriously doubt any of those trainers would have long term success. Hence that is where the problem sits.

The guys using enhancers force the guys who are not out of an even playing field. Kinda of a if ya can't beat em join em situation.

I don't know the answers . What I do know is as long as the tracks and the state agencies allow this stuff to continue. The sport will eventually have zero credibility. As far as the rise in handle you speak of . I have seen the numbers and they certainly are not large enough in my opinion to say the sport is coming back or gaining traction again .
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03-14-2019 , 08:49 PM
I know next to nothing about the horse racing industry but I always had the impression that the industry was shady. The parallels to MMA seem relevant.

The industry likely needs a bunch of rich people to bailout the industry by buying an effective monopoly and then work hard to clean it up. By controlling the biggest tracks and letting the public know that betters are getting a fair shake then it stands to reason that more betters would lay money down. Banning/Suspending horses whom test dirty for PEDs would force owners to do the right thing and would swiftly remove the bad trainers from the industry.
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03-15-2019 , 04:22 AM
but there's no money in that so why would they?

look at boxing. the biggest stage, under the biggest lights, with just two guys, one ref and three judges, meaning there is obvious public-facing accountability for decisions and yet we still see absolute nonsense like Deontay Wilder losing 10 rounds to Tyson Fury and being a winner on one judges card, splitting the fight in a draw overall.

nothing is ever said or done about these things because the judges were obviously ordered to make sure lucrative fight number 2 happened.
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03-16-2019 , 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bjoobs
but there's no money in that so why would they?

look at boxing. the biggest stage, under the biggest lights, with just two guys, one ref and three judges, meaning there is obvious public-facing accountability for decisions and yet we still see absolute nonsense like Deontay Wilder losing 10 rounds to Tyson Fury and being a winner on one judges card, splitting the fight in a draw overall.

nothing is ever said or done about these things because the judges were obviously ordered to make sure lucrative fight number 2 happened.
You're fake news.... Tyson fury lost that fight.
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03-16-2019 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BeHumble!
You're fake news.... Tyson fury lost that fight.
Even if you don’t count the knockout, Fury still lost.
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03-16-2019 , 02:00 AM
I am so confused. Are we still talking about Daniel Negreanu?
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03-16-2019 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Agnoostic
Well written and I wish you luck with the filly. You are correct . Most of my time was spent at Class C tracks where the horses are treated like a throwaway toy . Yet unfortunately that is the majority of tracks racing in the USA today.

The racing in other countries that actually implement rules and do things correctly are most impressive. I've seen the horses you speak of come here and win . Trained correctly . Yet here in our country I seriously doubt any of those trainers would have long term success. Hence that is where the problem sits.

The guys using enhancers force the guys who are not out of an even playing field. Kinda of a if ya can't beat em join em situation.

I don't know the answers . What I do know is as long as the tracks and the state agencies allow this stuff to continue. The sport will eventually have zero credibility. As far as the rise in handle you speak of . I have seen the numbers and they certainly are not large enough in my opinion to say the sport is coming back or gaining traction again .

Interesting podcast https://www.peta.org/features/peta-p....url.id=207872
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03-17-2019 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ginocan
I am so confused. Are we still talking about Daniel Negreanu?
Nope: loosely because he is an animal lover and we are surprised he has not started a ballot initiative to ban horse racing. Although he is from Canada where horse racing is like the NFL.

Danny is very uninteresting anyways .
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03-17-2019 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by The Agnoostic
Nope: loosely because he is an animal lover and we are surprised he has not started a ballot initiative to ban horse racing. Although he is from Canada where horse racing is like the NFL.

Danny is very uninteresting anyways .
Is the NFL popular in Canada?
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03-17-2019 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DCJ001
Is the NFL popular in Canada?
Yes
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03-20-2019 , 04:01 AM
But horse racing isnt
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04-10-2019 , 05:00 PM
Seems Daniel is being all loosey goosey on Twitter
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04-10-2019 , 11:06 PM
He was already being embarrassingly petty about the Chip Race podcast winning a meaningless GPI award, but now he's melting down lmao

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04-10-2019 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fakekidpoker
Seems Daniel is being all loosey goosey on Twitter
You would have to post it here as many of us are blocked.
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04-11-2019 , 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
He was already being embarrassingly petty about the Chip Race podcast winning a meaningless GPI award, but now he's melting down lmao

I don't read twitter, gotta say your post is hilarious
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04-11-2019 , 02:20 AM
What started it though?
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04-11-2019 , 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by fakekidpoker
What started it though?
* Daniel posted a (now deleted) tweet about certain player traits being "cancer". He received a lot of backlash.

* Dara O'Kearny wrote a blog post criticizing Daniel for this, among other things. The thumbnail image was Daniel's infamous blackface snafu.

* Daniel called it a hatchet job and dismissed Dara as a troll.

* Later, Dara and his co-host David Lappin won a GPI award for best podcast. On the broadcast, Daniel was visibly disgusted and said "ewww".

* Daniel went on Twitter and made vague passive-aggressive comments (as he often does), questioning the winner selection process.

* Later, Daniel went on his own podcast and said that Dara and David are just trolls, and that he has an inside GPI source that says their win is not legitimate.

* The Chip Race Podast twitter account says it doesn't want the award if Daniel's "rigged" claims are true, tagging PokerStars and GPI.

* David tweets something similar, tagging Eric Danis to inform him that Daniel has accused him of impropriety.

* Daniel gets very angry and resorts to more name calling, as seen in the image I posted earlier.

And here we are!
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04-11-2019 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
* Daniel posted a (now deleted) tweet about certain player traits being "cancer". He received a lot of backlash.

* Dara O'Kearny wrote a blog post criticizing Daniel for this, among other things. The thumbnail image was Daniel's infamous blackface snafu.

* Daniel called it a hatchet job and dismissed Dara as a troll.

* Later, Dara and his co-host David Lappin won a GPI award for best podcast. On the broadcast, Daniel was visibly disgusted and said "ewww".

* Daniel went on Twitter and made vague passive-aggressive comments (as he often does), questioning the winner selection process.

* Later, Daniel went on his own podcast and said that Dara and David are just trolls, and that he has an inside GPI source that says their win is not legitimate.

* The Chip Race Podast twitter account says it doesn't want the award if Daniel's "rigged" claims are true, tagging PokerStars and GPI.

* David tweets something similar, tagging Eric Danis to inform him that Daniel has accused him of impropriety.

* Daniel gets very angry and resorts to more name calling, as seen in the image I posted earlier.

And here we are!
Real Housewives of Poker
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04-11-2019 , 02:01 PM
....smh
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04-11-2019 , 02:38 PM
The jurors on the GPI Awards were:

Eric Danis
Frank Op de Woerd
William Shillibier
Mario Ho
Jamie Kerstetter
Benjamin Erwin
Brad Owen
David Tuchman

I'm not sure which ones Daniel is alleging to have rigged the vote. It would have to be a majority of them, I imagine.

I tweeted at most of them asking for some clarification, but received no response. Eric Danis, who is one of the jurors and also president of the GPI, has said that nothing improper happened.
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04-11-2019 , 02:42 PM



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04-11-2019 , 02:47 PM
Just a communications error.
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04-11-2019 , 02:54 PM
Daniel act like a petulant child....I'm shocked.
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04-11-2019 , 02:57 PM
Maria Ho No Mo
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