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Old 02-19-2019, 07:16 AM   #2476
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Re: Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here

"A common tactic of someone angle shooting is, to bank on the misinterpretation of actions by other players at the table."
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Old 02-20-2019, 11:16 AM   #2477
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Re: Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here

Anybody checked out his masterclass series and have any opinions? Apologies if that's already been discussed here or elsewhere (I didn't see anything in the "books and publications" review section, and a search revealed not much mention). Concerned it might be a bit basic...but then again with 38 lessons there is sure to be some insight in there far beyond just beginner-worthy (or even journeyman-worthy).
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:43 PM   #2478
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Re: Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here

I've seen a few positive comments but I don't think it's getting a whole lot of attraction either. He's not really bragging it up either as you might see a teacher tout a successful student. It pops up on my FaceBook almost every time I get into it, so he's still making a push. You might want to check out anything he still has on YouTube and see if there's any comments left on the trail of those videos.

The only 'off the wall' comment I will make is that while I don't doubt the information I've not studied it enough to know which Player base it applies to ... and maybe more than one. Cash and Tournament play is so different (IMO) as you change stakes that you need be cautious of how broadly any information, not just DNegs, applies to your area and level of play. GL
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:51 PM   #2479
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Re: Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here

^^ Good insight, and yes, I always try to take any pro poker advise with a grain of salt, and figure how it would apply to my local card room. Quite often, they'll describe something like a "standard" pre-flop bet pattern and I'll realize they are describing a much different game than the one I encounter. The closest I've found to my local game is The Course, I'll be damned if he wasn't describing my regular 1-2 game/crowd to a T.

I'll peak around YouTube, thanks for the tip...although I find mainstream social media comment sections to generally be the ninth circle of hell, I'll take a look, lol.
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Old 02-21-2019, 01:31 PM   #2480
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Re: Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here

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Surprised i've never seen this one. I wasn't totally sure what to think about the AK v KJ hand vs Silverman, but after seeing this its pretty clear he was angling both times. You don't accidentally pull this **** twice.

Makes me wonder what he's gotten away with off camera.

IMO his intention was to raise not to angle.

Obviously lied to floor when floor came. He should know better. Looks like he knew he messed up the raise with a string raise so just lied to floor to get his own way. Wonder how many other times he's done something similar or far worse.
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:42 AM   #2481
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Who reads like Negreanu?

I'm a bit of a beginner and love watching Daniel Negreanu when he reads people and knows EXACTLY what they have somehow.

As I was wondering if there are other players that are as good at doing it as him? I haven't been able to find anyone quite at his level.

Thanks
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:46 AM   #2482
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Re: Who reads like Negreanu?

I don’t know if this is news views or gossip. But whatever.
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Old 02-25-2019, 09:46 AM   #2483
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Re: Who reads like Negreanu?

And the answer is Jamie Gold
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Old 02-25-2019, 10:01 AM   #2484
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Re: Who reads like Negreanu?

He doesn't read any better than other top pro's IMO, He just gets way more tv time and talks a lot.
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Old 02-25-2019, 10:24 AM   #2485
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I'm a bit of a beginner and love watching Daniel Negreanu when he reads people and knows EXACTLY what they have somehow.

As I was wondering if there are other players that are as good at doing it as him? I haven't been able to find anyone quite at his level.

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Donít need to say this. Itís very obvious if you think Dnegs is a good player.
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Old 02-25-2019, 10:38 AM   #2486
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Re: Who reads like Negreanu?

Daniel negreanu, Jamie Gold, Eli Elezra, E-Dog, are some of the most stellar readers and true stand up guys
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Old 02-25-2019, 10:42 AM   #2487
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Daniel negreanu, Jamie Gold, Eli Elezra, E-Dog, are some of the most stellar readers and true stand up guys
Eli is more of a writer tho.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:22 AM   #2488
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I'm a bit of a beginner and love watching Daniel Negreanu when he reads people and knows EXACTLY what they have somehow.

As I was wondering if there are other players that are as good at doing it as him? I haven't been able to find anyone quite at his level.

Thanks
There aren't too many feel players around anymore. Most play GTO(Doug Polk Style). However, one such player you might want to check out is Trooper 97. He always goes with his reads and is regarded as one of the best "feel" players in Vegas. Always goes with his reads and has invested his poker winnings in several other successful ventures.
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:45 PM   #2489
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There aren't too many feel players around anymore. Most play GTO(Doug Polk Style). However, one such player you might want to check out is Trooper 97. He always goes with his reads and is regarded as one of the best "feel" players in Vegas. Always goes with his reads and has invested his poker winnings in several other successful ventures.
Damn it, I just spewed tea all over my keyboard.
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Old 02-25-2019, 02:02 PM   #2490
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I'm a bit of a beginner and love watching Daniel Negreanu when he reads people and knows EXACTLY what they have somehow.

As I was wondering if there are other players that are as good at doing it as him? I haven't been able to find anyone quite at his level.

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He certainly best at putting his opponent on thye exact hand that beats him but still calling.
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Old 02-25-2019, 05:12 PM   #2491
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In the "Mollys Game" movie, the US Atty was trying to pin some stuff on Molly through one of the mobsters they had surveilled.

Turns out, the guy kept asking for "Molly, slang for Exctasy."

If true, that had to be an amazing moment in time.
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Old 02-26-2019, 08:15 AM   #2492
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He doesn't read any better than other top pro's IMO, He just gets way more tv time and talks a lot.
This ... There's a long list of old school 'poker' Players that we saw who used their ability to put a Player on a hand and apply pressure based on the spot. In today's world, and really as a result of the exposure to this 'old' content (of which we know they all should've profited from), it's a bit more difficult to put a Player on a specific hand. So we 'range' them and lots of poker decisions are made on being right 'enough' of the time to be profitable in the long run, not just in the ongoing hand.

In a bit of a strange comment maybe, I think today's online content is more defined and yet can't be as specific than what would apply in days gone by. In simpler terms ... We have now 'found out' that there's more than one way to play AA!!

The more you play the more you should recognize the similarities in spots that come up and you will be able to think the way that DNegs talks. What's happening in today's game (with tournament play getting the majority of the exposure) is that Players are now recognizing that the Player applying the pressure really shouldn't have a hand here either, and they make their decisions based on what 'should' be happening most of the time.

That might all be a bit of a derail to your original question ... but I guess my point is that even bad regs such as myself can sit down at a typical 1/2 table and make the very same reads that made DNegs famous quite often. The real reading ability at a poker game is not only realizing what the other player has, but figuring out if you can get them to do what you 'need' them to do in order to be profitable. GL
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Old 02-26-2019, 09:11 AM   #2493
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Re: Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here

"You also probably know that focusing on ranges, not specific hands, is the professional way to approach poker." - Upswing Poker
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Old 03-05-2019, 03:51 AM   #2494
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Re: Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here

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Old 03-05-2019, 04:13 AM   #2495
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Re: Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here

Ok i keep seeing needles at Dnegs not being able to do a bankroll challenge at micros.

any links to what happened ? can't find them
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Old 03-05-2019, 05:02 PM   #2496
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Re: Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here

He moved up to where they respected his hair plugs.
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Old 03-05-2019, 05:33 PM   #2497
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He moved up to where they respected his hair plugs.
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Old 03-05-2019, 06:27 PM   #2498
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Ok i keep seeing needles at Dnegs not being able to do a bankroll challenge at micros.

any links to what happened ? can't find them
Why would he? If your rolled for much bigger and more lucrative games no sense in doing this it would be a huge waste of time to prove what he's a winning player? He's made I fortune off pokee so obviously he's do e a few thing right.

Just because someone is good at poker don't mean they can throw 20 dollars in an account and in two weeks turn into 100k grinding a bankroll from the micros would take 1000s upon 1000s of hours even if the games were super fishy like back in 2007 it'd still take a long time to go from 20 to 10k using proper brm strategies. Nowadays even longer probably as once you hit nl25 up on most sites the player pool is actually relatively well
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:44 PM   #2499
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Why would he? If your rolled for much bigger and more lucrative games no sense in doing this it would be a huge waste of time to prove what he's a winning player? He's made I fortune off pokee so obviously he's do e a few thing right.
so the question, again, is what happened ? did he try a challenge and fail it or something ? why are people saying he can't beat micros
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Old 03-05-2019, 09:45 PM   #2500
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Re: Daniel Negreanu's very own containment thread. All things Danny go here

I don't think that ever happened. I'm sure if I'm wrong someone will correct me and answer your question
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