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Daniel Negreanu would bet 1 million dollars that he could beat high stakes online NLHE Daniel Negreanu would bet 1 million dollars that he could beat high stakes online NLHE

08-15-2014 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Soulwaxical
If he says he can beat 5kNL then the challenge should be run as a home game that only allows players who have played a significant amount of 5kNL this year to get a seat. This would be regardless of their playing ability and would be the only was to truly test his claim.

If the tables are open to anyone, or if it was played at zoom, his celebrity status would skew the landscape to the point that he wouldn't be playing in the 5kNL games as they actually are.
His celebrity status isn't going to play a role at all because it will be impossible for anyone but the bum hunters and regs w/ the best script to get a seat. He made the same assumption on Twitter so clearly he has no idea how things even work at high stakes cash. In a normal setting he would literally NEVER get a seat with a fish. The best he could hope for is that some bad bum hunters sit thinking he's a mark.
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08-15-2014 , 11:30 AM
If he declares it, there's no chance he can't do it #choice
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08-15-2014 , 11:31 AM
So Klink is in for $500k
Polk and Colman said they are in.

Between them they should be able to cover the million so how about you guys get together and come up with rules and terms and issue him an official challenge. None of this twitter BS. Get everything set and in writing and forward it to his assistant. If he really thinks he can beat it he will accept it if not he will decline and we can all sit back and laugh.
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08-15-2014 , 12:02 PM
Please let this happen
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08-15-2014 , 12:17 PM
im willing to bet 25k on this, I can send on stars/ftp/party.
Im ok to escrow to someone with a good rep.
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08-15-2014 , 12:22 PM
Daniel trolling WCG.

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@DougPolkPoker
I respect what you have done in your career @RealKidPoker , but its naive to think that you can just log onto pokerstars and beat 25/50

@RealKidPoker
@DougPolkPoker then you need to reread what I said. I said I likely wouldn't be able to, but could with 2 weeks of work.
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08-15-2014 , 12:26 PM
What else is DN supposed to say?
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08-15-2014 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
Honestly, I believe he could get coaching every day for 5 years from the world's best players and still not be a winner at high stakes online. He simply doesn't possess the mental capacity required to process information quickly or accurately enough to compete with the guys in those games. It's obvious from watching him play and talk about the game. Stick to donkaments grandpa poker.
Are you speaking as someone with "the mental capacity" to make that judgment or just out of your arse because from a read of your post you come across as too young to know you're stupid and too stupid to know that you don't know it all when you're young
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08-15-2014 , 12:28 PM
Sauce, Klink, wcg, fees and stinger said they would take action depending on terms. Let get it rolling.

Last edited by Big_Mick00; 08-15-2014 at 12:29 PM. Reason: change
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08-15-2014 , 12:31 PM
I hope this is going to happen.
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08-15-2014 , 12:35 PM
Some ******ation on both sides. Obviously a -ev bet for DN but for people to act like all 1k+ 6max players are GTO is false. Even the best HU Limit bots are a few BB/100 off of GTO play. NLHE HU is more complicated again and nobody plays that remotely perfect. Now 6max NLHE has a much larger game tree than HU so obviously that is not played GTO either. People understand blockers and balance etc. better these days but I wouldn't go so far as to say all winning players have a strong understanding of game theory optimal play. I've seen winning high stakes players as recently as a couple of months ago not even know that when potting river 2/3rds value 1/3rds bluffs is the ratio for making the caller indifferent. This is the most basic balance concept you first learn. So show me someone who maintains perfect balance through all 4 betting rounds in most spots other than Doug Polk. After that show me how to even prove your strategy is GTO.

People play more balanced these days and work towards solving different spots but I would say just that. Most HS regs play relatively balanced games but not perfect ones.
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08-15-2014 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JERRYJ0NES
What else is DN supposed to say?
Idk, maybe something less absurd like " I think I could hold my own." or "I think given time and study I could be a winner at these games."
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08-15-2014 , 12:47 PM
I would bet 1m against DN .
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08-15-2014 , 12:47 PM
If this bet were to happen I can see friends of Daniel or maybe people paid off to dump to him. How would you be able to prove this? E-mail stars support? They won't investigate their #1 pro for cheating on a prop bet. Let's be serious. I would never bet against Daniel in this spot.
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08-15-2014 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Clevername69
If this bet were to happen I can see friends of Daniel or maybe people paid off to dump to him. How would you be able to prove this? E-mail stars support? They won't investigate their #1 pro for cheating on a prop bet. Let's be serious. I would never bet against Daniel in this spot.
this is ridicolous, don't think DN would be cheating and put his entire carrer on line for a milly
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08-15-2014 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Clevername69
If this bet were to happen I can see friends of Daniel or maybe people paid off to dump to him. How would you be able to prove this? E-mail stars support? They won't investigate their #1 pro for cheating on a prop bet. Let's be serious. I would never bet against Daniel in this spot.
Because Stars is going to risk their entire business that Amaya just spent 4 billion dollars on so DNegs can save a little face after making a fool of himself on Twitter with his usual self absorbed ridiculousness. I used to really like Daniel but he has become worse than Helmuth in that regard. Just crush live donkaments and STFU if you can't have some humility.
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08-15-2014 , 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tenderloinig
Some ******ation on both sides. Obviously a -ev bet for DN but for people to act like all 1k+ 6max players are GTO is false. Even the best HU Limit bots are a few BB/100 off of GTO play. NLHE HU is more complicated again and nobody plays that remotely perfect. Now 6max NLHE has a much larger game tree than HU so obviously that is not played GTO either. People understand blockers and balance etc. better these days but I wouldn't go so far as to say all winning players have a strong understanding of game theory optimal play. I've seen winning high stakes players as recently as a couple of months ago not even know that when potting river 2/3rds value 1/3rds bluffs is the ratio for making the caller indifferent. This is the most basic balance concept you first learn. So show me someone who maintains perfect balance through all 4 betting rounds in most spots other than Doug Polk. After that show me how to even prove your strategy is GTO.

People play more balanced these days and work towards solving different spots but I would say just that. Most HS regs play relatively balanced games but not perfect ones.
Nobody is claiming anyone can play exact GTO.
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08-15-2014 , 01:01 PM
I think it's telling that barring literally one or two people, not even the biggest Negreanu nuthuggers have been able to defend him here
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08-15-2014 , 01:11 PM
So am I to understand that high stakes 6 man is just super geniuses trading money back and forth?
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08-15-2014 , 01:17 PM
My first thought was wow lets get this going and bet my whole roll #onetime

After thinking about it for a while I think he could definitely do this. He could definitely be one of the top winners of these games actually
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08-15-2014 , 01:20 PM
when it comes to poker im not sure betting against daniel is a good idea anymore. i think he could do this.
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08-15-2014 , 01:31 PM
The people ITT making the strongest statements about how Negreanu 100% could/couldn't beat high stakes should maybe show their work.
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08-15-2014 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by alexo18
I would bet 1m against DN .
Business is good in the Chilean mine I see.
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08-15-2014 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by iPlayPLOhigh
Because Stars is going to risk their entire business that Amaya just spent 4 billion dollars on so DNegs can save a little face after making a fool of himself on Twitter with his usual self absorbed ridiculousness. I used to really like Daniel but he has become worse than Helmuth in that regard. Just crush live donkaments and STFU if you can't have some humility.
I agree with you but I'm saying there are a lot of factors to think about in this bet. Mason made a good point and said that a lot of wealthy businessmen would join some of the tables Daniel was on just to play with him. So this bet isn't asking if DN can beat the current high stakes games running. But rather, can he beat softer games because he will be at the tables. I am sure people are more likely to spew against him so if he just plays tight he can print money and win the bet. There would probably all kinds of stipulations bettors would want to make against him. So I doubt this will ever happen.
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08-15-2014 , 01:45 PM
I'm interested in this bet. I don't think it's hard to set up. Why not let him play 50k hands in a certain timeframe and see how it goes. That way you can avoid a too intensive tableselection. The pool on 5k is small, DN is an honest man. Chances that he will be trying to pull something shady are = 0.
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