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Daniel Negreanu would bet 1 million dollars that he could beat high stakes online NLHE Daniel Negreanu would bet 1 million dollars that he could beat high stakes online NLHE

08-22-2014 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ozu
Daniel Negreanu's Up For a $25/$50 Online Challenge Eventually



He does say he'd like to address seat scripting though so that's pretty cool.
Getting something done about seating scripts? That eliminates your only chance of breaking even at 5knl even if you studied for a year or two :/
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08-22-2014 , 07:00 PM
seating script excuse is funny, like he would just be sitting alone for hours if regs didnt have a script. The game would insta fill before any fish sat 95% of the time without scripts DN.
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08-22-2014 , 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KINGDMER
reg is relative- i don't know what connotations come with the term 'reg' when you use it.
now you're just being silly

like i said, do you honestly think dn is +ev vs a table of 5 winning 100z 200z regs? no fishes, just winning regs
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08-22-2014 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Calm Down
now you're just being silly

like i said, do you honestly think dn is +ev vs a table of 5 winning 100z 200z regs? no fishes, just winning regs
100NL confirmed unbeatable. Put the computer down, boys, no money to be made here.
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08-22-2014 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Calm Down
now you're just being silly

like i said, do you honestly think dn is +ev vs a table of 5 winning 100z 200z regs? no fishes, just winning regs
Yes. If he got coaching; very much so.
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08-22-2014 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by IMDABES
Yeah not possible so
Not advocating DN would beat 25/50 and have wide game selection, just stating he's not looking to sit with Kanu and he'll pick his spots carefully
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08-22-2014 , 08:10 PM
Well he kind of does go back on his original statement. He says in that interview that he didn't offer a challenge and that after two weeks work he might be up to speed and perhaps a small loser with good game selection.

Ugh read your own tweet again, Negs. You are the one who can't read, not others. You clearly said you could beat 25/50 online with two weeks work and would bet a million. That sounds like a challenge to me.

Then he makes the possibility of taking up the challenge much less relevant because he will only wait until online comes back to the USA. Well that won't be happening anytime soon-ish. So let's say it happens in 1 year and he studies systematically for that year behind the scenes? The whole thing has changed then. This bet can only be fair if he takes it up pretty soon. Like now, I would suggest.

Basically he did offer a challenge and now he has backed down and is trying to say he didn't offer a challenge and his word is his bond and blah blah.

Nah I wouldn't bet on this now as he plainly will not do what he first suggested.
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08-22-2014 , 08:11 PM
There is very slight chance he could beat 100zoom straight away and literally no chance he could beat 200z+ straight away and not even after 2 weeks or w/e.
I would instabet 10k against if he would have to play something like 100k hands a month.

Also i have no clue why regs who actually play those games bother discussing with some busto nvg guys.

I mean that one guy claims he can teach a friend without any pokerknowledge to beat 100zoom in 2weeks. Alone this statement makes it pretty obvious there is no way he could beat 100zoom himself...

Its 2014 ffs
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08-22-2014 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by niagarariverrr
Not advocating DN would beat 25/50 and have wide game selection, just stating he's not looking to sit with Kanu and he'll pick his spots carefully
Yeah, it's not possible, every game he sits in will insta fill, and not sure how familiar you are with stars cash games, but a fish sitting alone waiting quite literally never happens.
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08-22-2014 , 08:26 PM
Yeah seat selection is pretty much the reason why DN could never do this.

If he sits at 25/50 or lower, all spots will insta fill with scripters, so he won't get to game select to play with a fish. If he sits absolute nosebleeds (deep 100/200/ante+ etc), then almost only the very world elite will play and he still doesn't get to play with any fish.

Either way he has pretty much no say in what people he plays against and the people who will play him are going to crush him. He just can't do this without a script, lol.
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08-22-2014 , 08:28 PM
Judging from the one drop hands it's clear that DN is clueless and wouldn't beat 100NL.
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08-22-2014 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 5=2+2
Well he kind of does go back on his original statement. He says in that interview that he didn't offer a challenge and that after two weeks work he might be up to speed and perhaps a small loser with good game selection.

Ugh read your own tweet again, Negs. You are the one who can't read, not others. You clearly said you could beat 25/50 online with two weeks work and would bet a million. That sounds like a challenge to me.

Then he makes the possibility of taking up the challenge much less relevant because he will only wait until online comes back to the USA. Well that won't be happening anytime soon-ish. So let's say it happens in 1 year and he studies systematically for that year behind the scenes? The whole thing has changed then. This bet can only be fair if he takes it up pretty soon. Like now, I would suggest.

Basically he did offer a challenge and now he has backed down and is trying to say he didn't offer a challenge and his word is his bond and blah blah.

Nah I wouldn't bet on this now as he plainly will not do what he first suggested.
Pretty sure he was saying he might be a small loser during the early stages of the challenge but adapt and come out a winner by its conclusion, so he's not going back on anything.

Also, followers of this thread are taking the whole thing too seriously if they think he's gonna put the next year into training for this!
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08-22-2014 , 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
There is very slight chance he could beat 100zoom straight away and literally no chance he could beat 200z+ straight away and not even after 2 weeks or w/e.
I would instabet 10k against if he would have to play something like 100k hands a month.

Also i have no clue why regs who actually play those games bother discussing with some busto nvg guys.

I mean that one guy claims he can teach a friend without any pokerknowledge to beat 100zoom in 2weeks. Alone this statement makes it pretty obvious there is no way he could beat 100zoom himself...

Its 2014 ffs

It might be 2014 but that dosnt mean everyone playing 200nl is a super genius lol . OFC Daniel could win at this if kanu or ike gave him a few lessons.

Most people proposing that 200nl and 100nl are v hard to beat are doing so to make themselves feel better about the fact its isnt so easy for them.

simple ego boosting.

If it was that hard then all the regs claiming this wouldn't be able to beat the game themselves.

Alot of people underestimating dneg
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08-22-2014 , 09:02 PM
I'd like to see him try to beat HS 6 max hypers. Bet there would be a lot of action against for that as well. Would be interesting how bad he can **** up ICM.
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08-22-2014 , 09:06 PM
The seating script excuse is just lame. He made a statement saying he could beat online HS, who did he think he was going to play againt?
DN gets a hard time in NVG, I always used to give him the benifit of the doubt because I just thought he was an excitable character. The guy is a blow ass and attention seeker
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08-22-2014 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by KINGDMER
It might be 2014 but that dosnt mean everyone playing 200nl is a super genius lol . OFC Daniel could win at this if kanu or ike gave him a few lessons.

Most people proposing that 200nl and 100nl are v hard to beat are doing so to make themselves feel better about the fact its isnt so easy for them.

simple ego boosting.

If it was that hard then all the regs claiming this wouldn't be able to beat the game themselves.

Alot of people underestimating dneg
Remember that the rake takes a huge toll at anyones 100 or 200nl while being neglectable at 25/50.
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08-22-2014 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by KINGDMER
It might be 2014 but that dosnt mean everyone playing 200nl is a super genius lol . OFC Daniel could win at this if kanu or ike gave him a few lessons.

Most people proposing that 200nl and 100nl are v hard to beat are doing so to make themselves feel better about the fact its isnt so easy for them.

simple ego boosting.

If it was that hard then all the regs claiming this wouldn't be able to beat the game themselves.

Alot of people underestimating dneg
These lessons won't be useful unless he puts in a lot of practice applying them, you really think that's how this works, just get lessons= instawin? 200nl vs only regs over a decent sample would not be easy for him in 2 weeks IMO.

ALSO FOR THE 20TH TIME, NO ONES SAYING YOU HAVE TO BE A GENIUS TO BEAT MIDSTAKES, JUST THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE SOME WORK, EVEn FOR HIS HOLINESS DN. Even if DN has a better "poker mind" or w/e, just the fact that hes probably not remotely accustomed to using a HUD would set him behind. I mean unless he's 1 or 2 tabling or something.
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08-22-2014 , 10:24 PM
seeking for attention + egoments, but he has no balls for it
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08-22-2014 , 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by IMDABES
These lessons won't be useful unless he puts in a lot of practice applying them, you really think that's how this works, just get lessons= instawin? 200nl vs only regs over a decent sample would not be easy for him in 2 weeks IMO.

ALSO FOR THE 20TH TIME, NO ONES SAYING YOU HAVE TO BE A GENIUS TO BEAT MIDSTAKES, JUST THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE SOME WORK, EVEn FOR HIS HOLINESS DN. Even if DN has a better "poker mind" or w/e, just the fact that hes probably not remotely accustomed to using a HUD would set him behind. I mean unless he's 1 or 2 tabling or something.
why the **** would he be 4 tabling if hes not accustomed to online poker? He would 1 or 2 table because hes in no hurry. most 100nl and 200nl regs suck thats why there not playing higher. dneg has played vs some of the best minds in the game. You lot are ****ing delusional at how hard poker is. I mean srsly wtf have u seen how many fish play in these games?
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08-22-2014 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GacelSayah
seeking for attention + egoments, but he has no balls for it
yup- this thread probs makes him hard.
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08-22-2014 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KINGDMER
why the **** would he be 4 tabling if hes not accustomed to online poker? He would 1 or 2 table because hes in no hurry. most 100nl and 200nl regs suck thats why there not playing higher. dneg has played vs some of the best minds in the game. You lot are ****ing delusional at how hard poker is. I mean srsly wtf have u seen how many fish play in these games?
Ok Ok, time to unsubscribe form this thread. GL to all the sense talkers ITT, it's quite the plight.
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08-22-2014 , 10:41 PM
I guess tweeting does have a purpose
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08-22-2014 , 11:07 PM
Negs has a secret weapon up his sleeve.

Spoiler:
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08-22-2014 , 11:14 PM
calm down, I went from crappy MTT reg straight to beating 100 zoom 1.5 years ago and I'm quite sure Daniel is a much, much better poker player than I was/am.
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08-23-2014 , 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DougL
This statement is baffling, though often repeated ITT.

A) DN is terrible at 25/50 NL and will lose tons of money in the game and the 1MM side bet. Regs win, and thus the statement is profitable to them, no matter how wrong.
B) DN does better than most think at 25/50 NL, in a few weeks regs quit sitting him, and his statement of beating the game is proven true.

You think A is much more likely than B and would bet accordingly, that's cool. How is either case a slap in the face? Winning 25/50 players make bank in the only case where DN is wrong. If someone would like to insult me by dropping > $1MM by my house, I'd say great. What reg would ever mind this? Only fans would care. It is impossible to be insulted by such a statement, unless your only motivation is to have people tell you how good you are at poker. People who like money are likely pretty happy. The further he is from being a winning player, the more they should welcome his action.
High stakes pros are still people. People who have worked really hard on something geneally take pride in it and take offense when someone people will listen to insults them. If he had a chance of actually following through they might shut up just to get him to play but the fact of the matter is he was never going to do it he just threw out a million because it seems like it could be an amount he would bet and he didn't think it would attract any action.

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Originally Posted by brokeBluffer
what i learned in nvg today:
With a massive roll MS players should have no problem crushing SHR's

ty.
I would snap buy pieces of a 1knl winning Stars reg who put in 2 weeks of mtt work at no MU in any SHR.

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Originally Posted by Auca32
I agree that DN's statement is unrealistic but some of you guys are really overdoing how tough cash games are online (except for high stakes).

100nl/200nl is still pretty soft. Most regs are playing pretty straight forward and I'm 100% sure DN EASILY could crush those stakes without any practice (and 400nl/600nl too with a little practice). I'm positive I could teach a friend who knows nothing about poker how to beat 100nl in two weeks.
I don't think you realize how bad rake is at those levels. A 6ptbb winner pre-rake at 100nl becomes a losing player I'm pretty sure. And I will bet you any amount that you can't do teach a non-poker player to beat 100nl in 2 weeks literally any amount.

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Originally Posted by KINGDMER
It might be 2014 but that dosnt mean everyone playing 200nl is a super genius lol . OFC Daniel could win at this if kanu or ike gave him a few lessons.

Most people proposing that 200nl and 100nl are v hard to beat are doing so to make themselves feel better about the fact its isnt so easy for them.

simple ego boosting.

If it was that hard then all the regs claiming this wouldn't be able to beat the game themselves.

Alot of people underestimating dneg
Someone who crushes 200nl who can put in ok volume is easily making 6 figures. Obviously if this were easy a lot more people would be doing it.
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