wow, that is one of the GOAT clueless posts by Aces there, epic stuff. Someone should sticky that sucker.

99% level, I cannot believe someone would seriously think like that. The part about small ball and hand reading skills just scream level.

haha level or i leave planet earth

I wanna see Daniel make some of his plays from HSP at 25/50NL on PS.

so this challenge happening now or what?

youre really missing the point in this.

The reason why this is so annoying for most mid+stakes regs, is that Daniel is one of (if not the most) followed and influential poker players in the world. When he says something, people listen (regs and fish alike). For people in the know, who actually have an idea of how ridiculous his comments are, it becomes frustrating when he gets publicity and tries to promote himself to the public as something he's not. Most people aren't educated enough on poker to understand: a) how much work it is to be successful in cash games online these days b) how much of an underdog Daniel is in this bet

Given that he's obviously not going to follow through with this, it just results in self-promotion based on a bs comment that is painfully untrue and even disrespectful to the legit hs beasts that play it every day

daniel negreanu's ego is so big that he needs to release it in the form of opinions constantly to keep the inner body pressure in balance

So lame and anti baller to put up bets with no intention of actually fulfill them.

Confirmed clown.

So publicity is bad for the game? Rec fish being told it is easier than it really is hurts the game? I don't understand the mindset where you're deserving of making 100s of thousands of dollars per year and getting everyone to pat you on the back and tell you how awesome you are. That's the whole point of playing cash, you make money and don't have to care about the rest. Want to be famous? Play the donkament. I don't care if he had zero shot. You just hope that he shows up.

I don't ever remember Sally or KPR complaining about lack of respect. People just show up in their games and money goes away. I can't believe that they'd complain about anyone claiming that their games could be crushed.

You're right, I'm missing something. Where is it ever a good thing for a poker game to be known as so tough that only a poker genuis who studies that exact game for years can hope to win? It insults you that he says he could win? Someone has to be wrong to even have a game. The games are really good right now?

This wasn't really part of the discussion that I was responding to. The guy I replied to said it was flat out insulting that DN thought he could win. I don't have a twitter account, but based on reading this forum assume that people brag about stuff all the time there. If he's bad for saying he'd bet and backing out, I guess you're right. Not sure at what point you say he shot off on twitter and then ran away like (insert insulting phrase for people who do that).

I def agree that DNegs (the poker God of all the fish in the world) saying he could beat the hardest 25/50 games in the world is great for the people playing those stakes. Maybe some live whale will give it a go after their hero makes it seem so easy.

dougl, i feel like you're looking too hard to 'not be wrong', you should care less about that, and more about seeing more perspectives than just your own (not trying to rag on you, just my thought).

yes, there is some amount of free money in him making those comments, but you're forgetting that calling him a liar and whatnot baits him to 'sticking to his word' some amount.

fair enough if people feel insulted, dneg's word means a lot to many people (because they respect him), so don't say 'well he's calling 5knl a soft game, that's good for us', because the people who believe him think he's better than he is already.

if he had said, "yeah i could beat ivey on pokerstars at 25/50 i'd bet a million", why would your opinion not be the same as it is now?

this way is actually worse if you think about how many more people he's putting himself above, but better for him because its easier to back out of. making false promises is hardly good, and i dislike being associated with a person like that, i just hope he ends up feeling that the best way out of this is to just put up the money and lose with grace

youre acting as if this one specific tweet is doing wonders to promote poker, when in fact it does none of that. There are plenty of other poker related tweets/articles/whatever that actually promote the game and get people to play recreationally, this really isn't one of them.

youre also seeming to infer that cash game players who are opposed to his comments have some sense of unwarranted entitlement which is just incorrect.

You gave a pretty simplified option "a" and "b" in your previous post. Addressing that, you're most certainly overestimating the impact this one tweet has in promoting poker to recreational players or brining weaker players to the game (DN would be the weaker player in this bet, and thus would almost always be playing v 5 regs). Additionally, the benefits of this bet for the hs players who'd be playing is never going to be realized, which is the main problem. You have an ambassador to poker who is really just making an idiot out of himself publicly with no intention of ever backing up his bet, in turn belittling the work/difficulty that goes in to beating those games.

Same mindset of players cheering against Darvin Moon.

This

haha...excellent - build up of hot air IMHO

Yeh I from Leeds, David Nicholson.

We prolly played and/or drank together if you're from Notts

This "challenge" was just a promotion for pokerstars. Negreanu knows he could never be a winning high stakes cash player online.

Such a challenge is OBVIOUSLY good for the game and better still if he succeeds as it will encourage more players to deposit and give those stakes a shot (with or without two weeks of prep). As posted before, I hope PokerStars does it in connection with a Zoom promotion as it would prevent players from ganging up on him to collect on the side bet.

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IDK why 25/50nl regs would feel particularly offended by DN's saying he could be winning in those games in 2 weeks. Action at 25 50 would be insanely good if DN was playing regularly

ugh, this little narrative is starting to get frustrating. They can be "offended" and still love the opportunity to have him in the games, can you all understand that?!?!

If Phil Ivey sits at an empty 25/50nl 6 max table, would the table immediately fill and then there would be a huge waitlist?

Yes absolutely!

For some reason he's down heaps since FTP came back.... Life is a lot harder without a FTP God mode account.

Is there any famous pro that would sit down at a 25/50nl 6 max game and table wouldn't get instantly filled?


If a guy like Patrik Antonius sits, would it get filled immediately? Seems strange because this guy plays nosebleeds headsup and him sitting down at 25/50nl and table getting instant filled really doesn't make sense.