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Old 08-17-2009, 04:33 PM   #276
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you do realize that black people owned slaves as well in africa right. what if a white persons ancestors moved to america after the slave trade was abolished. are they still supposed to feel collective guilt? overall white people may be better off than black people, but it is very individualistic. you mention poor white person and lower middle class black person for a reason i suppose. i guess if the gap were any bigger you wouldn't think it was true. i can only speak for myself and i wouldn't judge someone based on their race, however i also wouldn't hold someone in higher regard based on their economic status which you seem to suggest is more reasonable. i also enjoy the fact that you seem to think you know what other black people think. perhaps you should state your own point of view and not make sweeping generalization of how people think based solely on what race they are. that if anything seems racist to me.
"black people wouldn't care..." etc-
Don't do that Black people owned slaves in Africa bit. Race had nothing to do with that...tribal warfare and what not. But that doesn't absolves other races getting involved. White folks could have let them go after they landed in the Western Hemisphere, but they didn't so let's end that.

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overall white people may be better off than black people, but it is very individualistic.
That statement is totally contradictory. It's one or the other. Make up your mind.

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i also enjoy the fact that you seem to think you know what other black people think. perhaps you should state your own point of view and not make sweeping generalization of how people think based solely on what race they are. that if anything seems racist to me.
Well considering that I AM Black and been around different Black folks, Sherlock, I can be qualified to say that. Just I can tell you there is a completely different way of thinking depending which part of the States you're in.

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Old 08-17-2009, 04:40 PM   #277
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The fundamental flaw in this proposition is that Daniel would get his ass kicked just for BEING WHITE, not for any impersonations he might do. Anyone who's ever lived in a predominately black neighborhood knows that white kids got their asses kicked/things taken from them just because they weren't black. Racism isn't limited to one race-it exists in all races.

In America, people have the right to be racist-it's part of the freedoms we are blessed with here...just as the right not to read Daniel's blog if we disagree with his views. Some of you are mistaking racism as being the same as discrimination-they are not.

Throughout world history there have always been class systems and instances of slavery. That's just the way it was. American slavery is relatively recent and that's why the wounds are still fresh in many peoples' minds. However, I don't know any african-american that would trade places with a person currently living in africa. That's not to say slavery was a good thing, rather, that blacks in the US today are reaping the benefits of the sacrifices made by their ancestors (whether they were willing sacrifices or not).

As far as equality, what does it mean to be equal? Whites are the majority population and will therefore have the most influence on all aspects of our lives. All groups of people should enjoy the same opportunities but not expect to hold equal ground with the majority. The power is in numbers. That's just the way it is.

Blacks have had their own colleges for over 100 years-and with that plenty of educational opportunities. This, along with the civil rights laws, has led to a very significant progression of african-american peoples in business, law, politics, etc. and expect this trend to continue. However, hispanics/latinos have now equalled the population of blacks and therefore we can expect another power shift and progression to occur. Be that as it may, whites are still in control and will continue to do so for a long time coming.
That's a good post; I TEMPORARILY disagree with you...'cause by 2050 all bets might be off on that.
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Old 08-21-2009, 09:42 PM   #278
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Bumping since the author of the "article" has an update:

http://www.pokerhelper.com/news/2009...archie-bunker/
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Old 08-21-2009, 10:36 PM   #279
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I wonder how this would all be differnet if Daniel were anything but a fair-skinned comedian doing racial impressions and making stereotype humor?

Somebody get Penn & Teller because this thread and the "news" that started/perpetuates it are a bunch of B*#$%^&*!!!!!
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Old 08-21-2009, 11:24 PM   #280
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Bumping since the author of the "article" has an update:

http://www.pokerhelper.com/news/2009...archie-bunker/
I may think Negreanu is a racist, but I also think this blogger is a ****ing moron.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:06 AM   #281
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“So if you haven’t seen the latest video blog, I do a little skit where I impersonate a Jamaican character named Dexter. I threw on a dreadlock hair wig, wore my best Bob Marley outfit and had my wife do my makeup so that I’d look Jamaican. She mixed brown face paint with black face paint. Jamaicans often have much darker complexions and she was trying to be authentic. She was doing it in the light and it looked good, but when finished, it was darker than I expected. I wanted it to look more like the pictures from Halloween when I did the same thing in 2003.
LOL. DN actually painted his face black for a skit? A skit for what? Wtf...? Daniel taking the "professional poker players are entertainers" sham a little too far?

If DN wants to do the 7/11 on a Saturday night in Compton with his Jamaican character (instead of the hip-hop character) I will actually lay odds.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:09 AM   #282
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If DN wants to do the 7/11 on a Saturday night in Compton with his Jamaican character (instead of the hip-hop character) I will actually lay odds.
LOL. Me too. Definitely gotta do escrow on that one, too.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:21 AM   #283
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Daniel is a bigot then....but, I guess I don' understand why this needed 19 pages. So what? Ok, hes racist or whatever, but noone is going to change that. He's ignorant and self-centered, but why not just sleep on it Peanut--- "He’s a poker player, and it reflects poorly on the game"--- No, it doesnt. It only does because you want to think so. Lets face it, many people don't know and even when they do, does that make him a worse player? No. He's still an incredible player and all these posts and gossip it sounds like the f*****g View. I'm not trying to slam you but pointing out that its nothing new to the world and I'd rather see a more quality post about something relevant to umm... poker?

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Old 08-22-2009, 12:27 AM   #284
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I propose he do it on Central and Alondra-- right in the middle of the Agnew park, home of the Tragnew park Crips. Somebody bring a couple of cameras. I'll bring the popcorn.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:35 AM   #285
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DUCY this is racist? YOU'RE NOT BLACK. How do you know what you'd think if you were black? You don't, and that you would even try to speak for black people as a hypothetical black person is ridiculous and seriously racist.
so basicly you're saying that blacks think totally different than other races? That it is impossible for whites to know what goes through their minds etc. Are they different from other races apart from their appearance?

sounds pretty racist to me

U should give DN a break. He's def not racist, just a nice guy with strong opinions. U on the other hand are just freaking paranoia.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:45 AM   #286
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so basicly you're saying that blacks think totally different than other races? That it is impossible for whites to know what goes through their minds etc.
Umm.. I'm not really wanting to get inside this debate, but it's pretty obvious it's not based on blacks thinking totally different; it's based on experience. If you had your balls taken from you because of prostate cancer, do you think a guy with testicles can understand what it's like to live without balls? It's simply beyond your experience.

Okay, now that I got the crude analogy out of the way, if you are male, please explain what it's like being a female in the workplace.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:57 AM   #287
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I propose he do it on Central and Alondra-- right in the middle of the Agnew park, home of the Tragnew park Crips. Somebody bring a couple of cameras. I'll bring the popcorn.
why, what would happen? would they kick and stomp him till his insides rupture? is that what they would do?

i like daniel, daniel dont go there. it sounds like dangerous people with a pack mentality live there.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:12 AM   #288
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This is really about whiners who need to grow some skin ( whichever color-choose) and/or a sense of humor. At the very least some tolerance for people with a different sense of humor. Some people like to laugh and poke fun. You don't like certain styles of jokes or humor, change the F-ing channel. Not everybody is all shrill and easily offend as you. It's officially played out, old. You suck and fail, your out!!! Deal with it.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:36 AM   #289
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This is really about whiners who need to grow some skin ( whichever color-choose) and/or a sense of humor. At the very least some tolerance for people with a different sense of humor. Some people like to laugh and poke fun. You don't like certain styles of jokes or humor, change the F-ing channel. Not everybody is all shrill and easily offend as you. It's officially played out, old. You suck and fail, your out!!! Deal with it.
So you're a DN apologist, eh? So you think these incidents are funny, eh? Basically you're supporting somebody who has this kind of...humor... which is, in my opinion, just as bad if not worse than the person who has this particular sense of..."humor".


Good grief the support of Dannyboy's veiws are sickening, especially I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt...
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:20 AM   #290
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''I just don't like seeing white woman and a black male together. I just think they are...different from us''


c Daniel Negreanu
Most Black women don't like seeing White women with black men. So are black women racist ?
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:26 AM   #291
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This thread proves one thing. Two plus Two is full of politically correct wimps.
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Old 08-22-2009, 02:32 AM   #292
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So you're a DN apologist, eh? So you think these incidents are funny, eh? Basically you're supporting somebody who has this kind of...humor... which is, in my opinion, just as bad if not worse than the person who has this particular sense of..."humor".


Good grief the support of Dannyboy's veiws are sickening, especially I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt...
Wow do you even know what racism is? Please see pre 60s america for an example.
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So you're a DN apologist, eh? So you think these incidents are funny, eh? Basically you're supporting somebody who has this kind of...humor... which is, in my opinion, just as bad if not worse than the person who has this particular sense of..."humor".


Good grief the support of Dannyboy's veiws are sickening, especially I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt...
Apologist? No need to apologise, nothing wrong has been done.

I don't know Danile Negreanu, so I couldn't apologise for him anyway.

I'll stick up for comedians and the freedom to joke about and laugh at all the silly **** we humans do. I'll call out whiny douchebaggery for what it really is when it comes in disguise as moral superiority.
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Wow do you even know what racism is? Please see pre 60s america for an example.
LOL. You don't have to be burning crosses on lawns to be racist, genius.
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Old 08-22-2009, 03:05 AM   #295
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Wow do you even know what racism is? Please see pre 60s america for an example.
Apparently YOU don't considering lots of **** happened SINCE the sixties.

What an ignorant post.

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Old 08-22-2009, 03:13 AM   #296
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Apologist? No need to apologise, nothing wrong has been done.

I don't know Danile Negreanu, so I couldn't apologise for him anyway.

I'll stick up for comedians and the freedom to joke about and laugh at all the silly **** we humans do. I'll call out whiny douchebaggery for what it really is when it comes in disguise as moral superiority.

Huh...I guess it's silly if it doesn't involve your group.

I'll call out any posers who THINKS they're calling out whiny douchebaggery for what they THINK it is, especially when the one's calling them out is ignoring and/or agreeing to any racial slurs said by Danny or any bigot and says its just comedy.

The internet sho' makes one incredibly bold...and ignorant.
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Huh...I guess it's silly if it doesn't involve your group.
My group huh? So if I were in a different "group" I would "get it" right?

HAHAHAHA! This is why I find racial humor so darn funny, because racism is so stupid it deserves to be eternally laughed at.
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Old 08-22-2009, 04:57 PM   #298
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The fundamental flaw in this proposition is that Daniel would get his ass kicked just for BEING WHITE, not for any impersonations he might do. Anyone who's ever lived in a predominately black neighborhood knows that white kids got their asses kicked/things taken from them just because they weren't black. Racism isn't limited to one race-it exists in all races....
For the poster who said this was a racist comment, check out Jonathan Lethem's _Fortress of Solitude_ (a terrific novel), about the author's experience of growing up as the only white kid in Bed-Stuy ...
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Old 08-22-2009, 05:06 PM   #299
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Every single human being is racist to a varying degree

It goes back to evolution, where the people who were able to recognize what kind of behavior to expect from different kinds of animals would be the people that would survive to pass on their genetics to the next generation

That looks like a tiger. Based on previous experiences with tigers, I know I should get the **** away from this thing before it eats me

That looks like a cow, I know it's got no tricks up its sleeves, I'm gonna eat this mother****er

And that has carried over into how we view other humans. It's a necessary function of the brain that we have no control over

So in a way, if you genuinely aren't racist (you're a liar first of all), then it's pretty amazing your gene pool ever survived long enough for you to be born. Or you have a mental defect
 
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And after reading Negreanu's blog entry it's pretty laughable that anybody would want to label him a racist over that

Uhhh, his post is speaking out against racism.

If you find that racist you have poor reading comprehension, and you just saw a white person talking about race and immediately jumped at the opportunity to call him a racist

Which is actually you being the racist, because you wouldn't identify these comments as racist if they were coming from a black person.
 

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