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Could a Poker Themed Hotel make it in Vegas? Could a Poker Themed Hotel make it in Vegas?

02-26-2018 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
OP,

Do not let the universal dismissal of your idea stop you from attaining your dream. Show everyone by setting up a Gofundme campaign to support your vision, and then you, and nobody else, will be in control of both dollars it may raise.

All the best.
.... be sure to set aside some portion of those funds (at least $1.00) for when the SEC comes calling.
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02-26-2018 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rpg33
Any ideas on a name for the hotel?
-The All In Inn

-"The Poker Palace" is a good name but some joint in North Las Vegas has that name. Of course a billionaire could always buy that name from them the way Steve Wynn bought the name Mirage from 2 motels that had Mirage in their name.

-If the hotel had a partner like Tom Dwan they could call it something like "Tom Dwan's Poker World Hotel"
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02-26-2018 , 04:58 PM
Poker McPokerface
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02-26-2018 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
Basically his argument is it's hard to get a gaming license and why go through all that to just have poker and not other games too. And poker doesn't make as much money as the other games and slots.

Well that might be true if you're just another poker room. But if you really concentrate only on poker and forget the other games, you might really be able to create something special. Things like:

-the most competitive rake in town.
-Some tables with a no tipping policy or having no tipping days.
-Liberal food comps.
-Having at least one Poker celeb being on site (as a host) each night.

There's all kinds of things you could do to be the best place in town to play. Once word got around, it might become the #1 room in town and thus attract more people to the hotel. I think if poker is ever to grow, these are the kinds of things that need to happen.
None of those things convert into money. This is a horrible idea because poker simply does not generate much revenue and you are not going to change that by saying it can just compete on being a hotel in the hoteliest city in the world. In your little scenario poker has no value. It doesn’t generate any income and if it is the hotel that is the draw, replacing the poker tables with more rooms and more general amenities would make you much more money.
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02-26-2018 , 05:29 PM
You would need the amount of poker players that are in Vegas for the wsop, but all year long. Maybe if poker becomes illegal everywhere else it could happen. It would be nice if there was one mega location, all year round, for poker pros. But it seems the reason there isn’t, is that there just isn’t that much money to be made from poker.
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02-26-2018 , 06:28 PM
A couple of booths that have someone to listen to the players ***** and moan for $1/minute would be a nice touch also.
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02-26-2018 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
A couple of booths that have someone to listen to the players ***** and moan for $1/minute would be a nice touch also.
I'd put up a big sign "COMPLAIN ABOUT POKER BEING RIGGED AND THE EARTH BEING FLAT".
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02-26-2018 , 06:51 PM
So it can work in California but not in Vegas, got it.


Last edited by Well Read Ted; 02-26-2018 at 06:57 PM.
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02-26-2018 , 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
So it can work in California but not in Vegas, got it.

Basically, unless you back off the earlier "poker only" gaming idea....yes, for a variety of reasons. For a nice consulting fee, I'll explain them to you in detail ...

The market in Las Vegas, not "Vegas" btw, is different than Bell Gardens, Ca.

Try looking at it this way ....

1. Do you think a tourist would pick Ted's World of Poker Hotel, which offers only poker over a casino which offers a variety of gambling ?

2. Do you think a pro would choose Ted's World of Poker Hotel,if casual player/rec tourists stay put at "Other Hotel-Casino" ?

3. What current hotels in Las Vegas actually market gambling v. the "experience" ? Binions marketed "Good Whiskey, Good Gambling" but the market has changed.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/busine...gas-marketing/


4. The expense/cost/fee for an "unlimited" Nevada license for offering poker is the same as for the whole package. (Gas stations, grocery stores, taverns havea limited restricted license for a certain number of machines.) There used to be some old licensed places still around which may have had some abilility to offer poker on some grandfathered basis, but I cannot say for sure.
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02-26-2018 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
So it can work in California but not in Vegas, got it.
It took a while, but you finally got there.

Oh, wait...since you posted a picture, I guess you think this is some revelation? Kind of a "gotcha" to everyone who said it wouldn't work? It's not. Everyone is aware there are poker rooms in different areas that work. Your statement that was intended to be sarcastic was actually true. Surprisingly, dozens of gigantic casinos makes for a different competitive environment.
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02-26-2018 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
So it can work in California but not in Vegas, got it.

Fill in the blank:

The Bicycle Hotel and [BLANK]

If you need a clue, it's in your photo.
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02-26-2018 , 08:42 PM
Just think of the difference in the hookers! They'd be a lot cheaper at the poker casino than at Bellagio.
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02-26-2018 , 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
-The All In Inn

-"The Poker Palace" is a good name but some joint in North Las Vegas has that name. Of course a billionaire could always buy that name from them the way Steve Wynn bought the name Mirage from 2 motels that had Mirage in their name.

-If the hotel had a partner like Tom Dwan they could call it something like "Tom Dwan's Poker World Hotel"
Tom Dwan's hotel would have to be called .. Durrrr
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02-26-2018 , 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
Just think of the difference in the hookers! They'd be a lot cheaper at the poker casino than at Bellagio.
They're only expensive if you're ugly.

Sorry pal.
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02-26-2018 , 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Beale
Just think of the difference in the hookers! They'd be a lot cheaper at the poker casino than at Bellagio.
The Taormina Hotel in San Jose, Costa Rica has that particular marketing combination refined to an art.

https://www.pokeratlas.com/poker-room/taormina-casino
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02-26-2018 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
They're only expensive if you're ugly.

Sorry pal.
But don't only ugly ppl need hookers?
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02-26-2018 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jcorb
The Lucky Dragon would not have failed if they would have catered to the pokerz.
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Originally Posted by PTLou
Lets unpack that a bit

Dragon built a themed hotel/casino kinda like what OP proposed. Primary difference is Dragon was focused on one of the most profitable customer segments and OP's is targeted toward the least profitable segment...
Yes, having 25 baccarat tables and some Chinese Slot Machines in a kind of dumpy area is definitely one of the most profitable segments.

Poker players on the other hand (especially local poker players in the million+ population area) probably wouldn't care about the not so classy area if the games were good and the rake was decent.
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02-26-2018 , 11:44 PM
I thought the whole point of this was to spend tens of millions on a play to fill cheap rooms in a small hotel in a nothing area by offering free food, the chance to meet people famous ten years ago, and low rake. And now you’re catering to locals? Can you stick with one terrible strategy?
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02-27-2018 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by illdonk
I thought the whole point of this was to spend tens of millions on a play to fill cheap rooms in a small hotel in a nothing area by offering free food, the chance to meet people famous ten years ago, and low rake. And now you’re catering to locals? Can you stick with one terrible strategy?
Where did I ever say the hotel (Lucky Dragon) that has relatively easy access (unlike most strip hotels) was going to ignore a customer base of 1,3 million locals?
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02-27-2018 , 01:18 AM
When I think of a dream poker trip experience there isn't a single LV local in it.
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02-27-2018 , 07:25 AM
Open one and I will come.
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02-27-2018 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
Phil Hellmuth's Hot Dog Shop

Doyle's Dunkin Doughnuts

TJ Cookier's Hot Fresh Cookies
Old Man Coffee Shoppe
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02-27-2018 , 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ATrainBoston
Old Man Coffee Shoppe


Every seat at 1/2 gets a actual printed newspaper and a coffee, but no lid for the coffee.
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02-27-2018 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Fill in the blank:

The Bicycle Hotel and [BLANK]

If you need a clue, it's in your photo.
+1

Not to mention he's preaching the cheapest rake in town then showing a pic of a california casino/poker room as an example of how this could work. pretty funny.
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02-27-2018 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Well Read Ted
So it can work in California but not in Vegas, got it.

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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Fill in the blank:

The Bicycle Hotel and [BLANK]

If you need a clue, it's in your photo.
Yeah, like the hotel guests spending $160 a night are staying in a middle class Bell Gardens neighborhood for the blackjack games.
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