I like 90% of your post MikeDeMichele. Makes a lot of sense. The 10% is what Bobo Fett points out, and which I add, that scientifically, so far, heat in any capacity has not been shown to limit this virus.

Oh, I see, that makes so much more sense. Usually by 7 PM in the summer, things have cooled right down in Vegas.

You could get lucky and hit a stretch where it isn't scorching, since WSOP is actually late spring/early summer, but if you don't, it can still be 90+ for most of that time frame.

I mean, there are soooo many other issues with the idea (suitable outdoor area, securing said area, lighting, bathrooms (which is a big issue when the idea of playing outside is to cut down virus transmission), and I'm sure lots more that I haven't thought of in a minute or two), but the weather one (including wind) really makes it unworkable IMO.

Several posts have mentioned touching cards and chips, and even washing the chips at the end of the day. One answer to all of this in the future might be the digital poker tables. The Union Plaza had a couple a few years ago. I really liked them because you didn't have to mess with counting down chips, and you always knew the exact count of chips the other players had. You also didn't have to worry about dealer mistakes, marked or bent cards etc.

Apparently though the tourists preferred the social aspect of a live dealer and they didn't catch on. Fears of this virus and future viruses though could change all of that.

The WSOP might try them out in just a few tourneys and see how they go over. They could rent them for a few weeks rather than buying them outright.

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...4dUDCAY&uact=5

There was news yesterday that the coronavirus may place added pressure on banks to find investors to complete El Dorado's $7B acquisition of Caesars Entertainment.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/banks...183449644.html

"Banks that agreed to provide over $7 billion of loans for Eldorado Resorts Inc.’s acquisition of Caesars Entertainment Corp. face an uphill battle to offload the debt to investors as fears over the coronavirus outbreak wreak havoc across the travel and leisure industry."

"If the banks aren’t able to find enough takers, they may have little choice but to offer the debt at a steep discount. They could even be forced to come up with the cash themselves, burning a hole in their balance sheet as they wait for better days to shift the risk to investors."
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I'm cross-quoting this May 2019 post from the separate Caesars/El Dorado NVG thread. I'm unsure if this should go here or in that thread, but am posting here since it's related to the coronavirus.

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Separately, here's a March 6th report that MGM and Blackstone (one of the main groups behind Amaya Gaming's acquisition of PokerStars in June 2014 are looking to the bond market in reaction to the coronavirus.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fe...-it-2020-03-06

"Affiliates of the Blackstone Group and MGM closed a deal to buy the luxury casino and resort properties for $4.6 billion last month with funding from a clutch of banks led by Citigroup. They now want bond-market investors to chip in as creditors.

The new bonds, rated Triple A to Ba2 by Moody’s Investors Service, are being offered for sale during a turbulent week, as the spread of the coronavirus in the U.S. has rattled markets and worried investors about potential economic fallout from the COVID-19 epidemic."

"'The timing to bringing these deals to market isn’t ideal,' said Jenn Ripper, an investment specialist at PennMutual Asset Management, in an interview with MarketWatch, adding that the U.S. tourism, hotels and gaming industries face uncertainty from a potential pullback by consumers and businesses on travel and entertainment spending."
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Are we all just completely gonna ignore that the WSOP themselves just tweeted they don't have any plans to cancel?

Guess it's not as exciting as fear mongering, is it?

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"no plans to cancel at this time"

It's not as if it's in any organization's interest to announce they have merely some plans or 31% certainty they'd cancel an event, even if they did.

I'm gonna tweet that I have no plan on dying, and then I'll be immortal, because that's how plans work.

Good God, there's no helping you clowns haha.

The same thing was said about SXSW over and over. Austin’s mayor even said they had no ability to cancel it. Then they cancelled it.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/05/police...-toilet-paper/

"The toilet paper loo-nacy Down Under has reached new heights – with a man being tasered during a fight over TP."

Are you seriously using the bolded phrases instead of the word “best”? I’m convinced that you’re going out of your way to be as annoying as possible.

EDC is May 15th-17th in Las Vegas. When will they cancel this like all the others?

I've been employed by multiple hospitals, have done work for almost a dozen hospitals, dozens of doctors and nurses. Though my work has been more in the field of data and so I'm not actually trained as a medical professional.

If you're unsure if UV rays kill viruses, you can go ahead and simply Google "does UV rays kills viruses" and it'll tell you all about it. The consensus seems pretty overwhelming.

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I'd like to specify that @Mikey_D and I are not the same person. I live in Vegas and know what the summers are like, and would never recommend that anyone play poker outdoors in the sun during that time of the year.

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For the person who recommended that we switch to digital poker machines instead of cards and chips, please, please don't. I promise you that if this were to happen, there would be plenty of developers on the inside trying to turn poker into a slot machine. Let's keep the game going with an actual deck of cards the way it was designed.

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I think it would make sense for the public greater good if it was decided to have the WSOP cancelled as many here recommend. But again, I think that it's very unlikely that Caesars is going to cancel one of its major tourism and revenue generating events unless their hand is pretty much forced. If they were to cancel the WSOP, they might as well cancel nightclubs, headline shows, concerts and everything that has a large crowd. They might as well just shut down the whole casino. So I just don't think they're going to do that.

A sideview: treatment of tuberculosis has a long standing approach with exposure to sunlight. As far back as Hippocrates the notion of sunlight as remedy for Tuberculosis was evident.

This does call for some clarification as we, in the modern age, refer to "sunlight" as we would penicillin or a bypass operation but in recent history this was not so.

It was gleaned that patients became susceptible to tuberculosis who lived in the squalor of large cities where with its human congestion and attendant lack of sunlight .

In this perspective "sunlight" becomes an environmental issue where lack thereof can initiate a tubercular reaction.

"TB is susceptible to ultraviolet light, including sunlight, but transmission is facilitated by overcrowding and poor ventilation. Additionally, the transition from infection to disease is highly dependent on the integrity of the host's immune system."(internet search)

The above refers to "sunlight" as a remedy or pill or a procedure whereas what was presented previously speaks to environmental issues.

I'll go out on a limb here but take note what others have written in this thread of the air clearing up around the offending province when everything was shut down . I was struck by this finding and wonder, only wonder, if again the primary agent of this disease was an environmental one in which people are within a state of congested crowding with lack of the appropriate sunlight in order to thrive appropriately; only a thought.

Pigs, cows, dogs, animals of every kind within the human environment, if not properly managed, can be a nidus of further deleterium.

Not exactly sure what you mean by turning poker into a slot machine; video poker has existed in casinos for over 35 years.

And I'm not advocating a total replacement of dealers and chips. There will always be those that prefer a live dealer. But I just think there are a lot of pluses with digital poker tables and in this era of viruses they should be given a closer look at.

Digital poker tables have already been tried, I have played them, they suck. If you want that then play online.

Emerald City Comic Con also released a statement last month insisting that they were not going to cancel their convention.

Two days ago they canceled their convention.

It is what Aussies do I suppose - went to the supermarket yesterday (not to get toilet paper mind you ) but now they are wheeling pallets of toilet paper down the aisles and not sticking them on shelves. The thing is we aren't going to run out of it so I don't know why there is so much panic as the distributors have warehouses that have tons of it to supply to supermarkets who them selves would have tons of stock on hand to supply to their individual stores but it does mean that supermarkets will get greedy and just keep all these most wanted items for a crisis at the standard price and not put them on special.

Would people be willing to bet against the WSOP happening at 1:1 odds?

Note I am not taking aciton or even suggesting this as a reasonable line.

The odds have stayed steady on pokershares at Main event goes as scheduled
-400 and Doesn't +300.

I think we are forgetting the wife factor:

Husband: "I'm going to the WSOP this year!"
Wife: "No you're not."
Husband: "oh. yes dear."

Serious question:

I know some cruises are not being aloud to disembark. Are these ships from other countries? With passengers from other countries? Are they American cruise lines with exclusively American passengers? I've never been on a cruise, so am very naive about the industry. Butttt, here's the reason I'm asking.

Airline flights, trains and busses on routes within the United States. The virus is in the states. If someone on a flight/train becomes visibly ill, will the flight be quarantined upon arrival? Isn't the reasoning behind quarantine/not allowing disembarkment the same?