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View Poll Results: Will the Corona Virus will alter their plans to attend WSOP this Summer (if it's not canceled)
Never planned on attending. 177 32.48%
Definitely wont attend. 112 20.55%
Probably wont attend. 93 17.06%
Probably will attend. 71 13.03%
Definitely will attend. 92 16.88%
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Old 05-25-2020, 05:54 PM   #5251
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

IDK, do people really go play just to watch something on their phone? I always thought it was just a consequence of the bordem rather than just going to watch something.

I think it would be more social as its more intimate, but you are right it would for sure be less relaxing and more confrontational overall, and I can see why some people definitely would not want that, but your time would be more efficient and you would actually be playing poker instead of looking at a phone, but possibly people have gotten used to that aspect and actually want it. I am also very bias for short handed games lol
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:32 PM   #5252
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

Wow, check this it on Hard Rock Tampa website if you try to book a room:

"IMPORTANT MESSAGE: If you will be arriving from the states of New York, New Jersey, Connecticut or Louisiana, we must advise that you are required to isolate or self-quarantine for 14 days from the time of your arrival in Florida, according to the Florida Governor's Executive Order number 20-82, which is currently in effect until July 8, 2020 and, as a result of Executive Order number 20-82, you will be unable to occupy a room at Seminole Hard Rock Tampa if you are arriving from those states. In addition, if your government issued ID to be used at hotel check-in is from any of these states, you will not be permitted to check-in and occupy a guest room at the Seminole Hard Rock Tampa at this time irregardless of whether you have met any self-quarantine requirements. This is for your safety and the safety of our guests and team members. Thank you for understanding."

https://www.seminolehardrocktampa.com/covid19
You have to click book your experience at the top to see it.

I wonder if only Florida is doing this.
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:41 PM   #5253
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

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Wow, check this it on Hard Rock Tampa website if you try to book a room:

"IMPORTANT MESSAGE: If you will be arriving from the states of New York, New Jersey, Connecticut or Louisiana, we must advise that you are required to isolate or self-quarantine for 14 days from the time of your arrival in Florida, according to the Florida Governor's Executive Order number 20-82, which is currently in effect until July 8, 2020 and, as a result of Executive Order number 20-82, you will be unable to occupy a room at Seminole Hard Rock Tampa if you are arriving from those states. In addition, if your government issued ID to be used at hotel check-in is from any of these states, you will not be permitted to check-in and occupy a guest room at the Seminole Hard Rock Tampa at this time irregardless of whether you have met any self-quarantine requirements. This is for your safety and the safety of our guests and team members. Thank you for understanding."

https://www.seminolehardrocktampa.com/covid19
You have to click book your experience at the top to see it.

I wonder if only Florida is doing this.
id be a lot more worried lets say u are asked for ID or hit a high hand, and then they find out your ID is from one of those 4 states and you are then asked to leave the casino. even if u say youve been staying in florida the last 2-3 months.
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Old 05-25-2020, 07:41 PM   #5254
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

before anyone goes to florida, would probably be a good idea to ask whichever rooms u might want to visit, if having an ID from one of those states would present a problem in being allowed in.
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Old 05-25-2020, 08:40 PM   #5255
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before anyone goes to florida, would probably be a good idea to ask whichever rooms u might want to visit, if having an ID from one of those states would present a problem in being allowed in.
And as you stated, winning a jackpot. These casinos seemingly will find any little issue to NOT pay you a rightfully won jackpot. Let's say you win $50,000 on a slot machine. You give your ID and it's from Louisiana. But you aren't staying at the property, you are only playing there. They could easily tell you that you aren't allowed to play because there is no proof you didn't just fly in or have been quarantined for 14 days. Hence after sitting for hours some uncaring mgr comes over and says they won't pay you because of the state ID.

I wouldn't risk even taking that chance right now at that place. They'll find away to not pay you.
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Old 05-25-2020, 09:45 PM   #5256
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

Florida poker rooms reopen with new safety guidelines

Video shows the procedures with them playing live in action at Daytona Poker Room.

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fl...ety-guidelines
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Old 05-25-2020, 10:06 PM   #5257
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

Anyone that wants to lobby for 6max vs 4max, here is your chance. The NV gaming board meeting Tomorrow(Tuesday) at 9am PST. All you have to do is email them before 9am and it will be read into the record, (I guess on the live stream).

Just make your points and arguments, all you have to provide is your name. The live stream is in the link below.


The Nevada Gaming Control Board will take public comment on any matters within its jurisdiction, control, or advisory power.
Comments by the public should be emailed to publiccomment@gcb.nv.gov and include the commenter’s name. The public comment
text will be read into the record and will be limited to three minutes as a reasonable time, place, and manner restriction, but may not
be limited based upon viewpoint. Comments received no later than the start of this workshop will be read into the record during the first public comment period.

https://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdo...cumentid=16757
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Old 05-25-2020, 10:09 PM   #5258
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

I don't think I saw any 9 handed tables?
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Old 05-25-2020, 10:12 PM   #5259
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It looks like they are doing 6 max like most of Florida. Sarasota KC doing 8 max tho.
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:43 AM   #5260
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

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Wow, check this it on Hard Rock Tampa website if you try to book a room:

"IMPORTANT MESSAGE: If you will be arriving from the states of New York, New Jersey, Connecticut or Louisiana, we must advise that you are required to isolate or self-quarantine for 14 days from the time of your arrival in Florida, according to the Florida Governor's Executive Order number 20-82, which is currently in effect until July 8, 2020 and, as a result of Executive Order number 20-82, you will be unable to occupy a room at Seminole Hard Rock Tampa if you are arriving from those states. In addition, if your government issued ID to be used at hotel check-in is from any of these states, you will not be permitted to check-in and occupy a guest room at the Seminole Hard Rock Tampa at this time irregardless of whether you have met any self-quarantine requirements. This is for your safety and the safety of our guests and team members. Thank you for understanding."

https://www.seminolehardrocktampa.com/covid19
You have to click book your experience at the top to see it.

I wonder if only Florida is doing this.
Now, THAT is a Constitutional issue in my view. Blatant discrimination against a US citizen, based upon nothing more than point of residence, origin, within the US.

See, https://www.americanbar.org/content/...thcheckdam.pdf

Crossing a national border into the US is a different circumstance than a US citizen traveling from one State to another..... especially when a restriction affects only citizens from certain States AND is not based upon any narrowly tailored test, such as CoVid screening all people arriving into the State.
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:48 AM   #5261
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The right to travel, is this the same crap I see on Live PD all the time where people get pulled over and they have no Drivers license and start with their "Right to Travel" dialogue, where they think they don't need a DL to drive a car.

It never ends well for them, most of the time.

Also keep in mind it is the Seminole Indians, so they can do things differently.
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Old 05-26-2020, 01:01 AM   #5262
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The right to travel, is this the same crap I see on Live PD all the time where people get pulled over and they have no Drivers license and start with their "Right to Travel" dialogue, where they think they don't need a DL to drive a car.

It never ends well for them, most of the time.

Also keep in mind it is the Seminole Indians, so they can do things differently.
Your example is entirely beside the point.... but hey, take your information from what unlicensed drivers say on LivePD. and offer it to address the instances of licensed drivers, airplane passengers, bus passengers, etc ....

I also am not saying anything about the Hard Rock, I was addressing the apparent Governor Directive which would unreasonably interfere with a US person's right to travel to our through lolrida, based solely upon from what other State their trip originated.

"The right of the citizen to migrate from state to state ... is not, however, an unlimited one. In addition to being subject to all constitutional limitations imposed by the federal government, such citizen is subject to some control by state governments. He may not, if a fugitive from justice, claim freedom to migrate unmolested, nor may he endanger others by carrying contagion about. "

Justice Robert Jackson, concurring opinion in Edward v. California (1941)(California "Okie law" struck down) A State perhaps could require/provide testing for all arrivals, including Floridians also, and quarantine those who are determined to be contagious, but it can't just bar or quarantine all New Yorkers, or Okies, etc. based on state of origin.


(LivePD is pretty interesting, especially in the realm of Miranda rights, rights to search a moving vehicle, stop and frisk, et cetera. a real insight into search and seizure practices. I would recommend it to law dtudents taking Criminal law.)

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Old 05-26-2020, 02:20 AM   #5263
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Lots of states have similar restrictions. I am not sure if the difference is if they say Must, or Urged to self quarantine.

States are reopening. But many still require travelers to self-quarantine. Here's where

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/5256975002

"Gov. Steve Sisolak issued a travel advisory urging all Nevada residents and visitors to self-quarantine for 14 days after arriving or returning. The advisory does not apply to health care, public health, public safety, transportation and food supply essential employees. "

Obviously that means you don't have to, or there would be no visitors.
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Old 05-26-2020, 05:17 AM   #5264
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

Interesting. As of today the poll shows roughly 33% of all 2p2 people attending the WSOP, whereas 66% or so are not going to attend.
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:28 AM   #5265
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

Those numbers haven't really changed since early voting a few months ago. If a new poll started fresh, you would likely see very different numbers. Of course changed it to late Fall and not Summer.
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Old 05-26-2020, 09:49 AM   #5266
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

The poll was closed when the postponement was announced.

That poll can be cleared and a new poll added so I am open to suggestions.
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Old 05-26-2020, 10:05 AM   #5267
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Make it, If WSOP runs this Fall with normal 9 handed poker

Definitely won't attend
Probably won't attend
Probably will attend
Definitely will attend

I don't feel the "never planned on attending" really matters but that's up to you.
Or maybe put, never planned on attending even before Covid-19.

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Old 05-26-2020, 11:45 AM   #5268
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Good idea but moot until the NGCB approves live games above 4 handed. I'll hold off a bit and see what they do.
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Old 05-26-2020, 11:53 AM   #5269
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Should add never planned on attending but with Covid never would. I dont see me in Vegas till 2021 late
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:05 PM   #5270
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The 1st public comment read out of the gate at the Nevada Gaming meeting stream was to increase poker from 4 max to 6 max and siting Florida and Hard Rock doing it.

Good job!
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:23 PM   #5271
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Another comment much more detailed about going 6 max, with most of the points we all made in here about bathroom breaks and casual players, and being hard for operator to make money. Must have been a 2+2er for sure.

Lots of comments about going no smoking.

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Old 05-26-2020, 01:22 PM   #5272
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Old 05-26-2020, 01:40 PM   #5273
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Lots of states have similar restrictions. I am not sure if the difference is if they say Must, or Urged to self quarantine.

States are reopening. But many still require travelers to self-quarantine. Here's where

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/5256975002

"Gov. Steve Sisolak issued a travel advisory urging all Nevada residents and visitors to self-quarantine for 14 days after arriving or returning. The advisory does not apply to health care, public health, public safety, transportation and food supply essential employees. "

Obviously that means you don't have to, or there would be no visitors
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I am not surprised at the tactics, but do feel that the requirement, based on being from out of State is a violation of US citizens' constitutional rights. There is no way a mandatory quarantine, based upon anything other than testing positive for the virus is defensible. A State constitutionally cannot decide that everyone from out of state or from say New York, is subjected to a quarantine requirement with no medical basis, a US citizen has rights, extended to the States by the 14th Amendment.

"Sick people" are one thing, "eveyone" is another. "Urged" is one thing, "required" is another.
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Old 05-26-2020, 01:44 PM   #5274
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Someone is the Hard Rock thread said they spoke to security and they said that everyone is ID checked upon arrival for the casino and If you are from "Up North" you will not be allowed.

Don't know how true this is but will be interested to see how that works out. lol
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