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Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread) Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)
View Poll Results: Will the Corona Virus will alter their plans to attend WSOP this Summer (if it's not canceled)
Never planned on attending.
177 32.48%
Definitely wont attend.
112 20.55%
Probably wont attend.
93 17.06%
Probably will attend.
71 13.03%
Definitely will attend.
92 16.88%

05-11-2020 , 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
I think there is a decent chance that a safe and effective vaccine will have been identified by August, at least on a preliminary basis.

But it is almost impossible that such a vaccine will be widely available to the public anywhere close to this date.

May 2021 is a completely different story. I would be pretty surprised if a vaccine were not almost universally available by then. My impression is that the news thus far on the vaccine front has been about as we could realistically expect it to be.
I’m curious as to what you base your opinion on that there is a good chance a vaccine will be available by August of this year when the shortest amount of time a vaccine was developed after identification of a virus was 4 years when a vaccine for mumps was approved in 1967. Are you at all familiar with the rigorous testing required to verify the effectiveness of a vaccine once it’s developed, not to mention the effort needed to develop the damn thing in the first place?
05-11-2020 , 10:54 AM
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05-11-2020 , 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Lermontov
I’m curious as to what you base your opinion on that there is a good chance a vaccine will be available by August of this year when the shortest amount of time a vaccine was developed after identification of a virus was 4 years when a vaccine for mumps was approved in 1967. Are you at all familiar with the rigorous testing required to verify the effectiveness of a vaccine once it’s developed, not to mention the effort needed to develop the damn thing in the first place?
Yes, but a lot of these steps are being skipped or run simultaneously for the purpose of this vaccine. The Oxford Jenner Institute scientists currently running trials have said they think it’s pretty likely that one of the vaccines already developed will be effective at fighting the virus, and they are mostly concerned about its potential safety. According to the Oxford group in the NY Times article below they believe the could have “a few million doses” of the vaccine available in September.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/27/w...te-oxford.html
05-11-2020 , 12:05 PM
I have no idea how the development of vaccines and antibodies work.

Given the reduction of speed bumps / testing etc whats the chance they accidently create some sort of super bug virus thingy that gets out of the lab and makes covid-19 look pretty tame?

Ive seen this movie several times. It ends badly.
05-11-2020 , 12:36 PM
How can RIO or other properties ask people to sign a waiver when they were already sued for wrong death in terms of the Legionaries disease outbreak a few years ago?

https://www.bensonbingham.com/news_a...aires-disease/

I'm the furthest thing from a lawyer, but how could a company ask a patron to release liability? Seems like the waiver wouldn't be able to stand up in court, even if the property made a good faith effort. I know there are lawyers that lurk here but COVID might be uncharted territory.

Thoughts?
05-11-2020 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by easyfnmoney
How can RIO or other properties ask people to sign a waiver when they were already sued for wrong death in terms of the Legionaries disease outbreak a few years ago?

https://www.bensonbingham.com/news_a...aires-disease/

I'm the furthest thing from a lawyer, but how could a company ask a patron to release liability? Seems like the waiver wouldn't be able to stand up in court, even if the property made a good faith effort. I know there are lawyers that lurk here but COVID might be uncharted territory.

Thoughts?
It's not uncharted territory unless the government passes some liability shield specific to CoVid 19 and which would xreate a "chart" to be applicable to the underlying facts presented.

(That's all you get for free. signed, a lawyer, not affiliated with BensonBingham, except as a one-time client of theirs.)
05-11-2020 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by akashenk
It has been discussed on this thread that what this mayor says has little effect on anything covid-related anywhere. Yet she continues to be a hot topic for some reason.
Easy to see why she is a topic of discussion. She has (had?) a national platform from which to broadly communicate the status and strategy LV is taking. Does she give a coherent message that makes people want to go? Or does she cause them to say, naw, I'll wait? That she isn't in charge of the strip is not very important when my friends east of the Mississippi are looking into a Vegas trip and they see her on the news.

She has blown her opportunity to ease the nervousness of folks wanting to go. Strip casinos should be livid.
05-11-2020 , 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
I have no idea how the development of vaccines and antibodies work.

Given the reduction of speed bumps / testing etc whats the chance they accidently create some sort of super bug virus thingy that gets out of the lab and makes covid-19 look pretty tame?

Ive seen this movie several times. It ends badly.
My understanding it depends on the type of vaccine developed. Messenger RNA vaccine (mRNA), which is currently in development by Moderna, poses a risk of magnifying effects of the virus due to the body's immune system acting in an undesired way. This approach appears to be the quickest to market, which is the primary reason why Fauci has been supporting it.

https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/c...ne-fda/575942/
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There hasn't yet been a vaccine, let alone an mRNA vaccine, for any of the seven types of coronavirus known to infect humans. Drug developers are leaning on past scientific work on other coronaviruses. That's led Moderna and others to focus on a distinctive "spike" protein seen on the surface of SARS-CoV-2. Moderna's vaccine, dubbed mRNA-1273, tells the body's cells to produce that spike protein, which, in theory, triggers the creation of antibodies to fight off a coronavirus infection.

Zaks said the approach is based on research on the SARS virus, a genetically related but different coronavirus, which showed that getting the body familiar with the spike protein alone would be enough to do the trick. But that isn't guaranteed. Russo at the University of Buffalo said there is some concern among experts that a coronavirus vaccine might need to target other surface proteins, too, for the body to generate a durable immune attack.
05-11-2020 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerHero77
My understanding it depends on the type of vaccine developed. Messenger RNA vaccine (mRNA), which is currently in development by Moderna, poses a risk of magnifying effects of the virus due to the body's immune system acting in an undesired way. This approach appears to be the quickest to market, which is the primary reason why Fauci has been supporting it.

https://www.biopharmadive.com/news/c...ne-fda/575942/
Thanks for the insight, especially the referenced link re mRNA efforts.
05-11-2020 , 03:36 PM


"An internal communication to employees of Lakeside restaurant said: “Not set in stone and certainly subject to change, but we are pushing for and prepping for a reopening date of 5/26. Full property including all restaurants.”

"While various Las Vegas casinos have been using “working dates” for reopening, those target dates have come and gone as Nevada’s shelter-in-place directive has been extended.

The May 26 date seems to have legs, as employees are being mobilized and recalled to ramp up operations."
05-11-2020 , 04:07 PM
05-11-2020 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by parisron


"An internal communication to employees of Lakeside restaurant said: “Not set in stone and certainly subject to change, but we are pushing for and prepping for a reopening date of 5/26. Full property including all restaurants.”

"While various Las Vegas casinos have been using “working dates” for reopening, those target dates have come and gone as Nevada’s shelter-in-place directive has been extended.

The May 26 date seems to have legs, as employees are being mobilized and recalled to ramp up operations."
FWIW, the Wynn Slots app is now allowing players to book reservations starting May 26th as well.
05-11-2020 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
FWIW, the Wynn Slots app is now allowing players to book reservations starting May 26th as well.
Time to book a trip. Gotta play some poker.
05-11-2020 , 05:41 PM
05-11-2020 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Lermontov
Time to book a trip. Gotta play some poker.
Definitely a wise choice.
05-11-2020 , 08:30 PM
It seems that being in late position didn't get to US an actual advantage over China and EU UTG "players".
And they are all playing the same cards.
05-11-2020 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by asymbacguy
It seems that being in late position didn't get to US an actual advantage over China and EU UTG "players".
And they are all playing the same cards.
A D - on the tortured poker analogy.

Surprised you did not attempt to work "drawing dead" into it.
05-11-2020 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
A D - on the tortured poker analogy.

Surprised you did not attempt to work "drawing dead" into it.
US can never ever drawing dead, but now to stay alive only a favourable river card is needed.
I guess it'll be under the form of a total lockdown suit and rank.
No other strategic plans can work, we're already all-in.
05-11-2020 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Lermontov
Time to book a trip. Gotta play some poker.
"We’ve been informed nightclubs, dayclubs, casino bars, the poker room and spa will not be operating upon reopening."
05-12-2020 , 12:35 AM
in other news, the local poker room here in TX opened today, with no problems from the city, 6 handed and with masks required and temp checks required. i won $192. guess its a good thing i still havent left town. im sure the other 10 rooms will soon follow, some of the ones in other cities already did. (in other areas of the state)
05-12-2020 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mprower92


"We’ve been informed nightclubs, dayclubs, casino bars, the poker room and spa will not be operating upon reopening."
Is this from the Wynn or were you just guessing what would still be closed once they reopen?

I looked online and couldn't find Wynn/Encore mentioning anything close to this statement.
05-12-2020 , 06:59 AM
Quotation marks are usually a clue that it's a quote, and I'd surmise from "we've been informed" that it's not directly from the Wynn. Cut-and-pasting that quote into Google gets me this:

https://vitalvegas.com/wynn-las-vega...-26-reopening/

The same article parisron linked to earlier.
05-12-2020 , 07:21 AM
05-12-2020 , 08:56 AM
^^^. some people showing up to play slots OK I get that.

A line of 250 people, that blows my mind.
05-12-2020 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sevencard2003
in other news, the local poker room here in TX opened today, with no problems from the city, 6 handed and with masks required and temp checks required. i won $192. guess its a good thing i still havent left town. im sure the other 10 rooms will soon follow, some of the ones in other cities already did. (in other areas of the state)
Yeah, it would seem that Tx will be pushing the envelope as far as how many players at the table. Two clubs in West Texas are up and running and even heard about another new club opening soon.

Same thing, 6 handed, masks, and temp check. One club even squeezed in a 7th player the other night.

Spoke to a floor I know at Winstar. She said they may follow Vegas lead with four handed, but they haven't really decide and the casino is opening on Friday.

It will be interesting to see how fast Tx clubs fill up. I can't imagine Vegas has any incentive to "compete" for poker players.

When the lockdown started, I theorized that regional rooms would see an increase in traffic. I also kind of expect there to be some additional underground games lol up.

      
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