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View Poll Results: Will the Corona Virus will alter their plans to attend WSOP this Summer (if it's not canceled)
Never planned on attending. 177 32.48%
Definitely wont attend. 112 20.55%
Probably wont attend. 93 17.06%
Probably will attend. 71 13.03%
Definitely will attend. 92 16.88%
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Old 05-06-2020, 09:05 AM   #4701
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Re: Coronavirus has caused the postponement of the WSOP 2020! (Coronavirus quarantine thread)

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I looked over the article. First of all, American Bankers Association is now the foremost expert on Disease Control?

"An ATM touchpad could be considered a high-touch surface, and so appropriate precautions should be taken. Even though the likelihood of any level of significant contaminant being present on the buttons is low"

Yea, horseshit. My example was if no preventative measures were being taken. So if they didn't clean the machine ever like normal and you didn't wash or sanitize your hands. 100's of disgusting people a day touching that pad who most don't even wash their hands in the bathroom and they are saying it is low chance of significant contamination. Yea right.
I would say just use contactless cards for everything, but then the US still uses cheques in 2020
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Old 05-06-2020, 11:53 AM   #4702
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the US still uses cheques in 2020
sic burn.

its true but we are always first to get new menu items from McDonald's so suck it
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Old 05-06-2020, 12:03 PM   #4703
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I would say just use contactless cards for everything, but then the US still uses cheques in 2020
Cheques, indeed. I favour using a cheque whenever I must pay a few quid for a translation of what some dentally-challenged, monarchist toady is pontificating about on the telly.

Sorry, we had a revolution here almost 250 years ago, so we could write checks whenever we desire to do so. At least checks are denominated in a widely accepted currency.

Harry and Meghan had the right idea, splitting to California .... probably so they could write checks there to pay for sunscreen, a convertible, cold beer, and fresh produce.
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Old 05-06-2020, 12:06 PM   #4704
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Old 05-06-2020, 12:17 PM   #4705
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I would say just use contactless cards for everything, but then the US still uses cheques in 2020
UK would be well served using some cheques to import some orthodontists for bloody sake.

C'mon, an entire country with jacked-up teeth is so middle ages.
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Old 05-06-2020, 12:25 PM   #4706
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I used to work for a cruise line. One of the biggest.

They are a lot of cruise enthusiasts. Although I donít see them coming back until there is a vaccine. Designed to be social and shared. Very international.

Just one person getting it is an unmitigated disaster. You are quarantining them in the exact area. What happens if a kid gets it? Are you going to put them in a room alone. No country will want them.

They should take whatever remaining money they have and put towards a vaccine. They are fooling themselves if they think they are coming back otherwise.

Also lol to thinking they can dump 2,000 passengers from 50 countries into a port city. Are they quarantining everyone on a ship.

They will all go bankrupt if they canít survive to a vaccine. They have no political capital being foreign flag and not paying taxes. They handled this pandemic horribly and spread it across the globe. Way too much scrutiny.

All their stocks are going to zero. There is no phased return for them. There is no possibly way to make a cruise safe, and conversely the danger is super high.

Total waste of money and time trying to institute a safety manual and announce they are safe. Nobody is going to believe them.


Their business instantly turns around if there is a vaccine. You would think that since that is the savior of the entire industry, they would be furiously working on it. They arenít.
Carnivals stock is up 50% since the last week of March.
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Old 05-06-2020, 12:54 PM   #4707
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lol,

Yea, well what about this:

An interesting site that tracks mutations of the Coronavirus:

Genomic epidemiology of novel coronavirus - Global subsampling

The options on the left side of page allow you to view the data in more detail, for example different date ranges, and see the map at bottom of page update.

Hovering over the "dots" on the first chart displays information about that data.

The virus is constantly mutating subtly.
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Old 05-06-2020, 03:10 PM   #4708
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Carnivals stock is up 50% since the last week of March.

Yep. People will still book cruises. People love them.

I donít see a single government being ok with it though. They shouldnít be.
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Old 05-06-2020, 03:55 PM   #4709
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How are cruises "death traps" when the virus kills such a low percentage of the population and a select demographic to boot?

A 25 year old newlywed couple who wants to go on a honeymoon has little to fear.
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Old 05-06-2020, 05:28 PM   #4710
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I looked over the article. First of all, American Bankers Association is now the foremost expert on Disease Control?

"An ATM touchpad could be considered a high-touch surface, and so appropriate precautions should be taken. Even though the likelihood of any level of significant contaminant being present on the buttons is low"

Yea, horseshit. My example was if no preventative measures were being taken. So if they didn't clean the machine ever like normal and you didn't wash or sanitize your hands. 100's of disgusting people a day touching that pad who most don't even wash their hands in the bathroom and they are saying it is low chance of significant contamination. Yea right.

I don't believe any of this down playing of spread by surfaces. If you want to not take precautions over these things and listen to the Bankers Association and others that is fine. But I have always been semi careful with washing hands and not touching my face when being around poker rooms, so I am extra careful now.
Not really sure why you live in a black/white word on this issue. Saying that the cleaning procedures are way overemphasized does not mean there should be no cleaning measures. Its just means that surface contamination only plays a small role in transmission. So if we are concerned about transmission, there are other things that should be emphasized much more.

And the link I provided was a scientific investigation into the issue. Who cares who sponsored it? Like I said, if you have access to an alternate source of scientific investigation into this issue, I'm all ears. Otherwise why should I or anyone choose to just go by your judgement on this topic.

You are, of course, free to believe whatever you like, and react to the procedures being discussed in any way you like.

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How are cruises "death traps" when the virus kills such a low percentage of the population and a select demographic to boot?

A 25 year old newlywed couple who wants to go on a honeymoon has little to fear.
I think mid-pandemic is probably the wrong time to be making definitive statements about the overall deadliness of this. Eventually we will know the truth of this (assumedly).

But if we are to jump the gun a bit, I think there is strong evidence that this is going to look very ugly from a 20/20 hindsight standpoint. I think we may end up finding that covid-19 is no more of a threat to the vast majority of the population than regular flu. And to a certain segment of the population Covid-19 is much more dangerous. This means "doing nothing" was likely never going to be a good idea if saving lives was the concern. But doing wholesale shutdowns will likely be proven to be a wrong-headed idea. Perhaps a really, really wrong-headed idea.

Its just too bad we knew so little about this virus in the beginning. Without getting into the politics of it... it just shows how critical China's reluctance to share info early on probably played into the state of thigs now.
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Old 05-06-2020, 05:34 PM   #4711
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How are cruises "death traps" when the virus kills such a low percentage of the population and a select demographic to boot?

A 25 year old newlywed couple who wants to go on a honeymoon has little to fear.
If someone gets infected on a cruise, it may not be a serious health threat to young people on board, but all of the fun stuff about the cruise is going to be cancelled, and its return may get delayed or diverted. It sounds like a tedious ordeal to me at best.
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Old 05-06-2020, 07:55 PM   #4712
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How are cruises "death traps" when the virus kills such a low percentage of the population and a select demographic to boot?

A 25 year old newlywed couple who wants to go on a honeymoon has little to fear.

Cruises cater to an older demographic.

You also canít quarantine/treat in the same exact spot.
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Old 05-06-2020, 08:10 PM   #4713
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In addition to old people, cruises are very popular with fat people who like to overeat, and have underlying health issues as a result of their obesity, making them more vulnerable to covid-19. Not sure the demand for cruises will be high enough without the old and fat people.
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Old 05-06-2020, 08:25 PM   #4714
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How are cruises "death traps" when the virus kills such a low percentage of the population and a select demographic to boot?

A 25 year old newlywed couple who wants to go on a honeymoon has little to fear.
There could be long term health effects (e.g., lung damage) even if you recover.
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Old 05-06-2020, 08:42 PM   #4715
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A 25 year old newlywed couple who wants to go on a honeymoon has little to fear.
So long as they don't mind seeing the bodies of the elderly being buried at sea after they've infected them with their asymptomatic ignorance.
That's if they're allowed out of their cabin after the first couple of nights.
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Old 05-06-2020, 09:00 PM   #4716
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How are cruises "death traps" when the virus kills such a low percentage of the population and a select demographic to boot?

A 25 year old newlywed couple who wants to go on a honeymoon has little to fear.

Select Demographic?

Translation: You donít give a f*** about the elderly or immune compromised people. Which is huge part of our population.

Be willing to bet if this virus affected everyone equally you would have a different story to tell.





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Old 05-06-2020, 09:09 PM   #4717
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How are cruises "death traps" when the virus kills such a low percentage of the population and a select demographic to boot?

A 25 year old newlywed couple who wants to go on a honeymoon has little to fear.
Death trap is a pretty strong phrase, but the trap part is certainly appropriate. That's the big problem with cruise ships and a contagious disease - there's no getting away from it. That doesn't mean I wouldn't ever go on a cruise, but given different vacation choices, it wouldn't be the first one I'd be making in the next year or two.

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So long as they don't mind seeing the bodies of the elderly being buried at sea after they've infected them with their asymptomatic ignorance.
If you're talking about cruises in the near-mid future, that seems rather judgmental. Anyone who's making a choice to go on a cruise this year should already know what they're getting into. If cruises are going to be allowed, I would hope no one on the cruise would be blaming anyone else for getting them sick.

But maybe I've misinterpreted your point.

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Select Demographic?

Translation: You don’t give a f*** about the elderly or immune compromised people. Which is huge part of our population.
And this post I really don't understand in the context of cruise ships. Why would elderly or immune compromised be going on a cruise any time soon?
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Old 05-06-2020, 09:42 PM   #4718
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Old 05-06-2020, 10:08 PM   #4719
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There could be long term health effects (e.g., lung damage) even if you recover.
Exactly.
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Old 05-06-2020, 10:36 PM   #4720
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And this post I really don't understand in the context of cruise ships. Why would elderly or immune compromised be going on a cruise any time soon?
You took the words right out of my mouth. There are a lot of posts in here about "idiots" infecting the vulnerable but never a judgement about the wisdom of the vulnerable putting themselves in needlessly risky situations e.g. casinos and cruise ships. Of course that would mean a missed opportunity to call someone an idiot so there's that...
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Old 05-06-2020, 10:57 PM   #4721
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You took the words right out of my mouth. There are a lot of posts in here about "idiots" infecting the vulnerable but never a judgement about the wisdom of the vulnerable putting themselves in needlessly risky situations e.g. casinos and cruise ships. Of course that would mean a missed opportunity to call someone an idiot so there's that...
I get this sense too. The level of sanctimony regarding peopleís behavior is fairly disgusting. What makes it worse is that it seems like every day more news comes out showing that the powers that be really donít know much about this virus still, and all their plans and proclamations are just throwing darts at a board. Given the uncharted territory we are in, Iíd be sort of willing to accept that if the proclamations didnít come with the sanctimony.

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Old 05-07-2020, 02:07 AM   #4722
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Doug Polk was on the news tonight about trying to get Mayor Goodman Recalled. lol

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Old 05-07-2020, 02:22 AM   #4723
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I believe all individuals should be fully educated on the risks. Beyond that they should have every right to engage in high risk activity at their discretion.
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Old 05-07-2020, 02:25 AM   #4724
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The level of sanctimony regarding peopleís behavior is fairly disgusting.
The appropriate level of sanctimony is the same level as is appropriate for criticizing people who engage in unprotected casual sex.
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Old 05-07-2020, 02:26 AM   #4725
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