States have generally been given leeway to police public health within their own borders. A nuanced view might be that states can quarantine anyone once they are inside the state, but the federal government has to be involved if you want to quarantine someone before they enter a state. The federal government can't abrogate the state power of quarantine, but there are overlapping powers. I would guess that one level of government can't undo what another has done, but can go farther, so states can't have less of a quarantine than whatever the federal government can do within its powers, but can have a stricter quarantine and the federal government can do more than states.

What is a quarantine? Quarantine is separating out people who might have been exposed to a contagious disease but don't have any symptoms to see if they become sick. Even if we tested people like you want, the idea should be that we would at least quarantine people until test results are known. The idea is that we don't know if you are sick, so we are going to treat you like you are until we know better. A quarantine is not something we only do to sick people. Anyone who says you should only quarantine people if they are sick doesn't know what they are talking about.

Given that this is a novel virus that we don't know about and that its spread has been linked to asymptomatic spreaders, it is reasonable to err on the side of caution.

Gotta think after these final tables finish up the WPT won't be continuing this practice anymore. With covid19 now, why put extra crew and staff members potentially at risk to basically shutdown a tournament 6 handed and resume it later in a different arena. I don't know I can't see this happening again.

6 handed tournaments can run but not really 4 handed.

For those asking how you can drink with a mask on

The only confirmed poker so far is Venetian and The Orleans.

I guess that gaming control board meeting went nowhere with the multiple requests for 6 handed. Can't blame most poker rooms to stay shutdown. I wonder if 6 max was allowed if Bellagio and Wynn would reopen their rooms.

At least it read into the record and is something for them to think about maybe for when phase 3 hits. Maybe it might only be 2 weeks and they could go 6 max.

The gray market game in Austin has players without masks sitting beside each other, this was rather quick. I know sickos tend to play in these games but this is too much even for that crowd........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KZqU7Nu_i4

its almost like the threat is minimal or something to anyone healthy....

Sweet. Let’s get this moving. Wsop fall 2020 let’s goooo

The city is not about to risk the bad press of having photos and video of a bunch of poker players sitting close to each other broadcast around the country, esp since poker is one of the least profitable aspects of the gaming business.

https://vegasadvantage.com/las-vegas...g-status-list/

that's actually pretty smart. I think recs would be much more likely to play one of those vs 4 handed cash game, and then maybe be more likely to try 4 handed cash.

Sheldon is a genius

The degen factor is so strong that people will return under any conditions. However once the novelty wears off and people tire of playing between plexiglass dividers, having to inhale disinfectant all day and eating with disposable utensils in gourmet restaurants business will fall off. A big factor going to Las Vegas is socializing with friends and family. Celebrating at a blackjack or craps table when you win a big hand or have a big run. It's going to be missing. The shows and the nightclubs are temporarily gone.

Plenty of addictive video poker and slot players to keep the local casinos going. Remember many of these people park their shopping cart full of groceries at a Smith's or Von's bank of video poker machines. The virus will not stop those people. It's like an opioid fix.

Sadly, eventually, it probably will.

Yeah imo if poker was a real money maker for the casinos I think you would see a real push from lobbying, casino executives etc... to get 6 max the standard now. But as many have noted, poker doesn't make any kind of real money for the casinos and they might be kind of glad it's 4 max for the forseeable future in Vegas so they don't have to open. My gut tells me there aren't too many casino executives shedding tears their particular poker room won't open for awhile.

You must like chasing a lot of bad draws.

I hate this idea because you'll probably start with ten big blinds then pros following push/fold charts will play these all day and it will be no fun.

Also at a four-handed cash game if I realize there's a very strong player at the table I can pick up my money and leave, but for a sit-and-go my money is already committed from the start.

I hope they will also offer cash games.

It’s hard for me to imagine these will be profitable for pros if they only cost $100. They will probably just be rake traps in which no one is significantly +EV. I can see them being fun, but only potentially profitable at a higher price point with a reasonable rake. One if the reasons the SNGs are so uniquely successful at the WSOP is that they run at all buy-in levels, with the same absolute rake regardless of buy-in.

Not true, have you seen the 2019 WSOP SNG structure sheets? Higher buyins had less rake.

Daily tournaments are rake traps too but a lot of pros still try to make a profit in them.

Most recs such as me consider $100 a pretty big buy-in for a tournament. I would definitely play a $40 four-handed SNG over a $100 one. But then even more people wouldn't take it as seriously and the whole thing would just be push/fold flips (which still might be fun if it's only $40).

The point is people want to play real poker and you can't do that at a four-handed sng because pros will just make it about push/fold chart flips.

And if it's going to be that way it's not like real poker and you might as well have some insane structure like all-in every hand or all bomb pots.

I don't think these are as big a factor for poker players compared to general gamblers/tourists.

Then they're being very short-sighted. Poker players = demand, and if a casino is struggling to build demand, this is more important than short term profits.

article says they will have cash games too

These are not designed for pros. Rooms know that pros/regs will play 2 handed 8 handed 16 handed.... anything to make a living as long as some recs are there. Yes they will be absolute rake traps. dealing a 4 hand SNG is a total money loser for the house thus the structure will be turbo forsure, maybe hyper turbo, but thats not the point.

Given 80% if the market is 1/2NLH where buyin is 100-$200. These SNGs are pricing in 80% of the market. pricing is perfect.


the goal here is to get recs to come out to the room and play. specifically play something 4 handed. I think there is a group of recs that will play 4 handed SNGs but not 4 handed cash. After playing one of those maybe they will be more likely to try 4 handed cash.

at this stage regs should be applauding and supporting ANY room that is opening and ANYTHING the room is doing to attract recs.

4 player sit and gos actually are a smart idea for the casino
And i can see players liking them because they can 4x their money, the game doesn't just break if someone wants to go to the bathroom etc. Of course they will be turbos and rake traps and that's fine. Almost everyone who walks into a casino is down lifetime at gambling. If they have fun playing these things good for them, and if you're trying to make a living playing 100 dollar sit and goes lol@you.

As for picking up and leaving if a "really strong player is at the table" etc.
There won't be many really strong players in these things and they won't take very long. People won't be playing correctly in these anymore than they do in rio sit and gos.