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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Whole lotta self-ownage for such a short post.
Was hoping I wasn't the only one who noticed. I know little about BJ other than how to play, but I already was thinking of several approaches to this that wouldn't be that difficult IMHO tho I was just musing. I only took like 6 math classes total in university (discounting mechanics and physics and such) and remember very little of the trickier stuff. Def no brag (actually trying to imply my lack of knowledge from those days) and I'm nooo math major nor any genius with numbers. Far from it. I like math from a hobby PoV but only on a small scale. Not stuff relevant to this card counting either in any way.
Rich would you make the bet to me? I'll post it on video in any (reasonable) conditions you request live. I'll escrow too (as you will have to obv). I know I'm new here but Ive played online cash for 4 years now (just PLO though). Not comfortable giving ID but besides that open to any and all terms just as long as you and me escrow first. I have camera equipment. Could do multiple angles. Whatever don't care I'll do it as Stu would've done.
I'd even take 1.5:1 in your favor for 2000$ if you'd be up for it. Or more if you'd like, it's no problem - just only like up to around 5k or 6k (just don't want to escrow more than that).
So would that interest you?? I don't play table games
ever really so I've played little very little BJ! That must be good for you right?
I swear I don't think I've played 5 hands lifetime. I'm not one to go to casinos nor play anything gambling related besides online poker.
Easy bet for us both then right?
Just please don't make ridiculous conditions that'll make any arbiter's decisions more difficult than they should be. I'm open to any and all reasonable ones though. I haven't even tried to attempt it yet. Only just did some pencil and paper work for 20 - 30 minutes max before I wrote all this lol. I must be an overconfident donk!
Anyways back on topic how can people even say any of these people mentioned in the OP could be large sample size winners online, even small-mid stakes NLHE. Just has become a much different game since the days these guys played. Like with Doyle's book for instance, I read it after learning and playing a lot more NLHE (no more than 30-40k hands before I realize I hated it but I was a big winner at the stakes I played). With Super System not only is some info outdated, it's either terribly low EV lines than the alternate route (and some -EV ones too), no attention to bet sizing (in terms of how much bluff/value combos you need in your range) or in general really. Not much attention to the big differences when playing very deep etc etc. Not being hard on the guy, but going back to read it after being a small winner at a reasonable stake and sample was scary to realize. Wish I had this basic knowledge back when those guys were playing big. I'd imagine any semi decent 1/2 player would spot the plethora of bad advice. Not knocking him just pointing out the obvious about today's online atmosphere.
"[Old Player] was good for the time and place" seems to be the right idea about those players, those books, etc. I know I don't play NLHE much (I just don't like the game after really grinding PLO hard and winning at higher stakes more comfortably, plus enjoy the evolving meta right now while NLHE has been slowing down).
Do most people here even play (or win) on any site nowadays? I always lurked for years so I don't know enough about the population of NVG. But this thread seemed ridiculous from the outset. At least it's better than another "is Tom Dwan the best ever at NLHE?" thread.
Anyways, please PLEASE Rich get back to me. We'll agree on terms and escrow. Need to find a good arbiter though because I'm not active here and don't want you to pick your best buddy. No offense - it's not that'd you'll go do that but you must understand my position. No silly terms either. If it's going to be ridiculous than I won't take the bet, but anything reasonable to ensure it's just me counting. Me winning would be just meeting exactly what you stated - determine last card in shoe. I have lots of camera equipment, microphone, should be done live for you for fairness (can't think of another way), shuffling is the biggest concern I'm guessing you'd have but I'll leave that up to you. I'd prefer the 1k+ bet at least, tho with the better odds for you as i feel it's more worth my time (not trying to be a dick at all just why work this out and practice a useless skill when I could jump in a PLO game or work my day job and make more with less effort). Not trying to be a dick seriously. If you're so sure then it's best for both of us.
Cheers.
Last edited by LordQuas878; 02-04-2018 at 07:49 AM.
Reason: BTC I'd accept too in lieu of USD or CDN. Euros only if no other way.