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02-21-2011 , 05:10 PM
@Kevmath just Tweeted this: http://www.showbiz411.com/2011/02/21...me-for-players

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The National Football League must have something against charity. On Saturday afternoon about 25 players turned up for the Starkey Hearing Foundation’s big poker for charity blitz at the Golden Nuggest Casino in Las Vegas. ....

The NFL players were supposed to be scattered around the room at their own tables. All the money raised went to Starkey, the fantastic Minneapolis based foundation that brings hearing aids for free to childen and adults around the world. But then NFL got wind of what was happening, they issued an edict right away that the players were not allowed to participate. .....
Wonder if it would have any impact if poker players started boycotting the NFL - whatta load of crap.
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02-21-2011 , 05:11 PM
It's always been rumored that the NFL has been on of the heavy hitters against legalizing poker in the US, but jesus, this really shows they have a massive chubby for shutting down poker.
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02-21-2011 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterLJ
It's always been rumored that the NFL has been on of the heavy hitters against legalizing poker in the US, but jesus, this really shows they have a massive chubby for shutting down poker.
Thought this was a well known fact rather than just rumor.
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02-21-2011 , 05:19 PM
Why would the NFL want to get involved in borderline illegal activity? If the players don't like it then they can quit the NFL. Many of the poker events are disquised as charity, when in reality they are just a way for people to play poker.

This one may be legit, but there are many poker events with a charitable element that are not so clear cut.

Any activity that needs the cover of charity in order for it to be allowed is obviously operating in a gray area. There is nothing immoral with poker, but people don't murder their parents in order to go to the movies. People don't go bankrupt because they like to hit balls at the driving range. A small number of people who play poker do horrific things.

I wuold say the percentage of people who play poker who go bankrupt is likely the highest of all the so-called "entertainments".

Poker is what it is......get over it.
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02-21-2011 , 05:30 PM
I don't think the NFL has this kind of authority over the players. So, I think something else may be going on.

Was this charity tournament using 'NFL' or other registered trademarks to promote the event?
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02-21-2011 , 05:34 PM
Hmm can`t the players sue the NFL? I mean you Americans sue for every ****.
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02-21-2011 , 05:35 PM
if theyre worried about the quasi legal ones how about not shutting one down at a legit vegas casino
idiots
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02-21-2011 , 05:36 PM
How is it legal for the NFL to decide what there players can do on their own time ?
Obviously the players contracts would forbid activities that could result in bodily harm or anything that is considered illegal, surely a charity poker tournament does not fit this.

Judging from all of herns posts he is obviously a degenerate busto. Just because you suck at poker and never realized it till it was to late does not mean others should not be allowed to enjoy the game.
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02-21-2011 , 05:37 PM
^Herns, you have a point to a certain degree about the somewhat unsavory aspects of poker. But don't think that the NFL is objecting on moral reasons; beer advertisers help provide a big portion of the NFL's ultimate profitability, and alcohol causes as much or more misery than poker.

It's about the $. I would guess the event promoters advertised that "NFL Players" would be there, and the NFL isn't going to allow any of their trademark terms to be used unless they are getting a huge chunk of cash. Example: Bars used to be able to advertise "Super Bowl Parties" until a few years ago, when the NFL cried copyright infringement and stopped it, all across the country.
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02-21-2011 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Bad_Bill
^Herns, you have a point to a certain degree about the somewhat unsavory aspects of poker. But don't think that the NFL is objecting on moral reasons; beer advertisers help provide a big portion of the NFL's ultimate profitability, and alcohol causes as much or more misery than poker.

It's about the $. I would guess the event promoters advertised that "NFL Players" would be there, and the NFL isn't going to allow any of their trademark terms to be used unless they are getting a huge chunk of cash. Example: Bars used to be able to advertise "Super Bowl Parties" until a few years ago, when the NFL cried copyright infringement and stopped it, all across the country.

Poker cannot help the NFL in any way. It can only lead to potential problems. There was an NFL player last year who committed suicide partly due to gambling problems. Poker is a form of gambling. Art Schlichter was in the news again last week. The NFL has no need to officially sanction any of it.

I understand that the NFL would be half of what it is without gambling, but that still doesn't mean they want their players going to charity poker tournaments. They have enough charitable activities set up that don't involve gambling. Poker can only bring trouble to the NFL. There is no upside, so they are trying to protect their downside.
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02-21-2011 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by herns
Why would the NFL want to get involved in borderline illegal activity?
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A charity poker tournament being held at the Golden Nugget Casino in Las Vegas is "borderline illegal"???
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02-21-2011 , 06:36 PM
I am down for boycotting NFL, who is w/me?

Not because of this even, just because I think football is lame.
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02-21-2011 , 06:40 PM
So lol that Americans think they have more freedom then anyone else in the world, and constantly boast about this claim which is clearly false.
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02-21-2011 , 06:40 PM
herns I think you have some personal problems with poker.

Why sport betting is not part of NFL business too? Sport betting is ok. Poker is not?
Poker has nothing to do with NFL. NFL can't decide what the player should or shouldnt do with their free time.
It was a charity event. If they wanted to gamble they could do it on roulette.
Is America still a free country?
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02-21-2011 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sba9630
A charity poker tournament being held at the Golden Nugget Casino in Las Vegas is "borderline illegal"???
Why not send them to Pahrump after the tournament and they can pay for sex. While they are at it, they can hang out in Arizona with gun permits.

What you fail to understand is that there are certain activities, that while legal in some places, can only create problems for the NFL.

You are too biased to see it because you probably spend your whole life rationalizing how poker is good for you. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but you guys spend an inordinate amount of time talking about potential positives with poker, and you conveniently neglect the negatives.

You just don't get it. Imagine any other harmless entertainment where the legends in the game talk about people getting shot right in front of them. When Doyle Brunson and other old-timers talk about people getting blasted in the face in home poker games back in the day and killed, you guys eat it up.

But imagine that being accepted in any other situation other than talking about poker, and you will see how deep most of you are into denial.

Poker is neither wrong nor right, but you at least have to acknowledge the potential negative consequences.
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02-21-2011 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Morris King
I am down for boycotting NFL, who is w/me?

Not because of this even, just because I think football is lame.
+1
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02-21-2011 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by herns
Poker is neither wrong nor right, but you at least have to acknowledge the potential negative consequences.
Lots of things in this world do and/or could have "potential negative consequences", ka1z0ku is right you obviously have personal issues with poker.
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02-21-2011 , 06:53 PM
2 things...first thanks a lot breylonn edwards lol...and second the no fun league is a f joke....dont they have bigger fish to fry atm like a labor dispute?
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02-21-2011 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by herns
Why would the NFL want to get involved in borderline illegal activity? If the players don't like it then they can quit the NFL. Many of the poker events are disquised as charity, when in reality they are just a way for people to play poker.

This one may be legit, but there are many poker events with a charitable element that are not so clear cut.

Any activity that needs the cover of charity in order for it to be allowed is obviously operating in a gray area. There is nothing immoral with poker, but people don't murder their parents in order to go to the movies. People don't go bankrupt because they like to hit balls at the driving range. A small number of people who play poker do horrific things.

I wuold say the percentage of people who play poker who go bankrupt is likely the highest of all the so-called "entertainments".

Poker is what it is......get over it.

This announcement was brought to you by the NFL Commissioner's office.
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Originally Posted by herns
Poker cannot help the NFL in any way. It can only lead to potential problems. There was an NFL player last year who committed suicide partly due to gambling problems. Poker is a form of gambling. Art Schlichter was in the news again last week. The NFL has no need to officially sanction any of it.

I understand that the NFL would be half of what it is without gambling, but that still doesn't mean they want their players going to charity poker tournaments. They have enough charitable activities set up that don't involve gambling. Poker can only bring trouble to the NFL. There is no upside, so they are trying to protect their downside.

This announcement was brought to you by the NFL Commissioner's office.
I fixed your posts.

Seriously, how can a poker event being held in a well known Las Vegas casino with a fully legal poker room be in any way, shape, or form "borderline illegal"? There is nothing illegal about this. Period. It's fully legal. And poker is played at the Golden Nugget, both cash games and tournaments, on a daily basis. They don't need to disguise anything. As charity or anything else. They operate in the open, as every legal business is allowed to.

The Golden Nugget has a nice poker room, with friendly and capable dealers and floor people. You oughta go take a look and see for yourself.

Is it so hard for you to accept that at least some casinos, and some players, want to give to their communities? If you have a problem with this specific charity, then say so. And why should it be a problem for some pro football players to support such charity? What's wrong with athletes donating money to a good cause, and having some fun while they're at it?

Your mindless drivel (sorry, but that's what it is) makes no sense whatsoever.

Lee
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02-21-2011 , 07:02 PM
wow, i had no idea the nfl would take such a stance, even with charities involved....kinda sucks.
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02-21-2011 , 07:11 PM
Poker has a higher percentage of people who kill their parents than most all activities. It is sad but true. Really, how many professional poker players are there? And how many have been caught up in murders the last 3 or 4 years. There are at least 4 or 5 that I can name off the top of my head, and I will look them up for you if you want.

Even if the number of killers is is 7 or 8 that we know about, that is about the highest percentage I have seen when it comes to horrific crimes.

http://sanramon.patch.com/articles/g...is-poker-debts
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02-21-2011 , 07:15 PM
I think Dynasty is right - they were seeding the trny with the NFL players, so possibly infringing on trademark - but - still - just telling the players not to play at all?
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02-21-2011 , 07:17 PM
Here's an article from today....what are the odds of that? Another poker pro and murder.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...69/detail.html


Here is a poker playing husband and wife team. Wife murders husband.

http://www.aintluck.com/poker-pros-w...in-his-murder/



There are so many more. It is truly an astounding percentage of poker players who have been involved in murder. Almost 100 percent of the legends of poker have witnessed murders, too. Guys like Doyle Brunson laugh about it. They also laugh about drug dealer Jimmy Chagra and all the money they took from him gambling.

And you want the NFL to be happy about sending NFL players to the Golden Nuggett to play poker for any reason while representing the NFL? They can play on their own time NOT REPRESENTING THE NFL.

You guys need to get out into regular society and see how the world works.
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02-21-2011 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by herns
Poker has a higher percentage of people who kill their parents than most all activities. It is sad but true.
I killed mine just to watch them die. Took the over on how many times their hearts would beat after the head shots - won six tourny buy-ins.

But that doesn't make poker illegal in anyway, yanno.
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02-21-2011 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by herns
Here's an article from today....what are the odds of that? Another poker pro and murder.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news...69/detail.html


Here is a poker playing husband and wife team. Wife murders husband.

http://www.aintluck.com/poker-pros-w...in-his-murder/



There are so many more. It is truly an astounding percentage of poker players who have been involved in murder. Almost 100 percent of the legends of poker have witnessed murders, too. Guys like Doyle Brunson laugh about it. They also laugh about drug dealer Jimmy Chagra and all the money they took from him gambling.

And you want the NFL to be happy about sending NFL players to the Golden Nuggett to play poker for any reason while representing the NFL? They can play on their own time NOT REPRESENTING THE NFL.

You guys need to get out into regular society and see how the world works.
Garbage.

A lot of misconceptions.

NFL should be against all of kind of gambling activity from your point of you. They are only against poker.


So lets boycott NFL because Heaps of NFL player were involved in Murder.

8 NFL Player Involved in Murder.
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