fact- 3000 dudes peeing at the same time is a great place to see new assortments of weiners....

see also "the last five poker pros ive pissed nest to" dr paulty

see also 'russg pissed on my shoe" boba fett

see also you can borrow the truck anytime you wnt its the safe play

I'm in the plumbing biz and I sell Urinals. Matt Berkey nailed it, that much urine in a short window of time is a recipe for disaster.

Also, if you drink a ton of water, your urine has a more clear color and is much easier on plumbing systems; if you were intentionally drinking less water because you're in a huge tournamement, it's more bright yellow and is "harder" on urinals, toilets, pipes, etc.

This is an interesting story/discussion. The fact is, the WSOP hires floor staff, and they have to make decisions that will make half the people happy, and the other half not.

I was a "caller" at a pretty big bingo hall in northern cali to raise money for my kid's sports team ... the amount of money made was pretty amazing. I had no idea what I was in for. It was a nightmare. If I met 100 bingo "regulars", 10 of them were wonderful happy fun people, and 90 were miserable, obese, nickel-and-dime angle shooting like short changing the volunteer workers. Real pieces of crap. They make poker players look like Habitat For Humanity.

As a caller, I am judge and jury when there is a dispute. What I learned is, you make the call and don't show indecision or weakness, or it's blood in the water. I had a tiny sad little 90 pound guy run to the front of the room and threaten me. I turned off my mic and told him at the count of five, I would kick 100% of his @ss. He walked away with people in the front of the room laughing at him. I had 200 people boo me. Loudly.

My point is, the floor people at WSOP have to make split second decisions and stick to it 100%. I wasn't there but I feel like the floor acted poorly, with plenty of blame to go around. The letter from Puckster is a good thing. That's the correct way to handle it.

I think the point is that normal maintenance at the Rio is now being deferred. The four urinals and several toilets in the main Men's room next to Pavillion were covered and out of service for literally the entire WSOP.

The escalator leading down from the Mezzanine level of Masquerade Village was out of service for the entire WSOP.

These are normally things that a robust thriving business would have repaired and fixed ASAP.

I imagine with Caesars operating while in bankruptcy, the expenses are closely monitored, either that or Caesars just doesn't give a crap about the Rio property anymore, it's been rumored to be on the selling block for years with no takers.

The WSOP is the premier money maker for the Rio and Caesars every year! That's why they keep extending it and adding more events. It's worth tens of millions of dollars (hundreds?) in income year after year (tournament rake, side games, room rentals, gaming revenue, food and drink sales, etc. etc.) and yet they do little to improve it in any meaningful way for the players.

I've been coming (and playing) in the WSOP since it moved to the Rio, probably eight or nine of the last thirteen years. Usually I play anywhere from five to eight events in a two week span. It's a minimum $10,000 investment for me and I'm not a rich man or a professional player. I've been fortunate to have a few good cashes (three final tables in small buy in events, $1,500 or $2,000).

The WSOP is still the best series of poker tournaments held all year, just because it's not all NL Hold'em, which the rest of the world is going to. That said the Rio should do more to accommodate the players who make this event what it is. That's just good business! Better planning, better restroom facilities and better food (OMG what a joke that tiny kitchen was this year with no place to even sit down!). In the early days at the Rio you at least got a $15 food comp for playing any WSOP event. Now it can take days for the minimal food comp to even show on your card. I was so disgusted this year that I played in only one event and went back home! I've never played fewer than four previously.

The way I see it (and I'm a businessman having owned several successful small businesses) the Rio is out for one thing only. That is to make as much money possible off the WSOP and let the players be damned. They can come or stay home, the Rio could care less about their concerns or complaints. Pretty typical corporate stance for many major companies today.

I began to lose faith when they moved the dates from April and May to the dead of Summer in Vegas. They just assume that the players will come and endure whatever hardships they must face to be able to play in the WSOP. For the most part the tournaments themselves are well run, with good dealers, good floor people (they could use more) and good structures. My beef is with the Rio itself and how they accommodate the poker players who are keeping this casino afloat. Room and food prices keep going up and the quality keeps going down! I never stay there anymore (and I used to) and I never eat there, except for the one good restaurant in the hallway that has the great breakfasts.

Thread of the year. Soon to be Trial of the Century (from the T-mobile arena)

Can't believe somebody suggested locking this gem. We've heard about legal statues, Doyle "the kid" Brunson and so much more and all in less than 400 documents.

Well done everyone, especially our tenacious crusader op - keep on puckin'!

Please do share.

Yup. Sadly, the days of poker players being treated like VIPS (a la Binions) are long gone. Damn shame.

Reality has apparently set in for Mr. "never say die" Puckster.

It's over.

"Lawyers never get old, they just lose their appeal."

The legal action may still have some legs but I always thought taking on the WSOP is like firing at a moving target, that the law frowns upon poker/gambling so may not have the teeth to support a successful case, and that Luke Vrabel's initial reaction (which was totally understandable) may have hardened WSOP's resolve to not back down under any circumstances.

I still hope that he does get some compensation and an apology as they were in the wrong IMO on a number of counts.

Hi guys,
as stated a few post ago, super tied up and not time to advance this for another 60 days. Have consulted several attorneys and will be moving on this sometime around the first of December.... remember the slogan in Animal House ? THIS AINT OVER UNTIL I SAY ITS OVER. Kind of the way I roll. I expect to resolve this matter prior to the start of WSOP 2018. Speak soon

Rich Gangi can attest to my status as tied up right now.........and no, I'm not incarcerated ..

Hi Puckster! How goes your legal battle to promote the rights of obnoxious poker players everywhere to behave badly at the WSOP? Has the WSOP issued an apology, paid damages, and invited Luke back to ruin another event for everyone?

OR IS IT OVER AND YOU AINT SAYIN?