these guys look too big to be Asian imo

that's right because there are no morons on 2+2

i didnt think mormans used computers??

i think this is true, so no collusion. what if they be ghosting?

Probably just sharing hand histories on Isildur1.

If there were 3 people playing on 3 laptops at same table some people would get suspicious other would say "meh".
Here however there are AT LEAST 6 laptops visible all connected to stars.
The girl that took the picture said they were playing on stars with 2 laptops EACH.
Are you blind?
How do you explain 6 laptops?

They were probably ghosting on a laptop and playing on the other. That's what ppl usually do. Anyone who likes ghosting ppl will buy a wireless card and a spare laptop because that's what friends do.

You can't have multiple accounts playing on the same table connected from the same IP address.

Captain Obvious to the rescue.
How about accounts connected from different IP addresses?

You were 0 for 2 on this one. It was pretty clear (from what you quoted), that I meant someone from this thread go into the Borders, log in to Stars, PM you "Hey, screenname123 logged in from that Borders today at 10am EST". Now your system has that IP, and maybe you can find out what other accounts were on that IP at the time the photo was taken.

It's also pretty clear from the thread, that some of those laptops are using air cards. We know the software restricts multiple people from the same IP, it's been mentioned in this thread.

I realize this isn't top priority, but it would be nice to see that Stars can think out of the box on collusion issues. Stars has traditionally been good at investigating collusion cases, especially when e-mails come in accusing players. The next step is thinking outside the box. "Wow, a lot of our DON players are from China".

Maybe it's VP$IP's fault for mixing in so many jokes, but there are people in this thread (including VP$IP) who think it's over 95% these people were colluding, and who think there are ways to find out who they were.

Looks like stars needs to call the cyberpolice to get those dudes backtraced

If they were colluding, they would have to bet KK into trup QQ so that it wouldn't be obvious that they were working together.

Or someone from this thread go into the Borders, connect to the Wifi, open www.whatsmyip.org and then post the IP address.

Wait.... they don't look Chinese!

Josem - I think this is not a very good response at all.

Firstly, somebody could help you get the IP address of the borders in question. I'm sure it's not too hard to look it up online.

Secondly, why are you ignoring the very obvious aspect that some of the computers have wireless air-cards?

I'm really confused by some of your responses in this thread.

Granted, this would be a slightly more difficult one to figure out and it would have been nice if the person observing this had done more than just take one picture. But I don't think figuring this out a bit further should be completely impossible.

It almost seems like you are willfully ignoring some of the other aspects discussed in this thread. I do not understand how you can NOT think it suspicious at all that one player would be playing on two different computers at the same time....much less three different guys all doing that.

The people in this thread are actually going pretty far out of their way to help you and you seem to be kind of blowing them off.

All - Based on the picture showing the outside of the building do we think it's possible that a couple are on air-cards, one would be on the Borders WiFi, and then another would be on the WiFi from one of the buildings next door?

Perhaps the fact that they can receive 2 or 3 different WiFi signals in that place on top of their 2 or 3 air-cards is why they kind of dig it...along with the nice long table, tasty beverages and awesome guitar talent while occasionally scoping the fine bookstore babes who happen by.

We need to have boots on the ground. To determine the Border's WiFi IP address, and to determine what other WiFi signals are usable from that location.

I have been to that shopping center before, but I am not even close to it now. It is on LV Blvd, down near the airport. Off the beaten track for most tourists.

Disturbing.

+1. does this josem dude actually work for stars? if so that is the true crime being committed. arent employess at least supposed to pretend they give a **** when dealing with customers? i would not trust my money with these people. i mean, in essence, stars is a bank and youre telling the bankers that there COULD BE a theft and providing some very good evidence. then the bankers are calling you a crazed stalker. id be withdrawing my money faster than the 3 alleged cheaters if they are indeed cheating which no one knows...yet.

I have started withdrawing my money from Stars.

Sad.

Don't worry guys, I enhanced the picture (learned it off of movies).



Don't worry, they're just railing Isildur1 and PA.

i know that area and immediately thought these dudes were on flight delay or something. set up shop real quick and got sloppy. its still better than 50/50 that they ARENT cheating. which makes the stars response and subsequent loss of customers even more insane. REMEMBER, when it comes out that this was innocent and the dudes were just railing or something those facts do not change the stars response AT ALL.

Good point.

E. Sunset Rd. is the way to the airport car rental returns.

Someone should contact the photographer because she probably has a higher res version of this photo, assuming she didn't take it on her phone.

limon - How do think it is better than 50/50 that they aren't cheating? Just curious.

You don't need to set up a different computer with an air-card just to rail somebody.

I don't think it's 100% that they are cheating. There are some goofy scenarios and hypotheticals to justify what they are doing without it being cheating.

But I think it's less than 50/50 for 3 players to use 2 computers each AND with air-cards without it being a situation where they are breaking the rules somehow.