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08-10-2010 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by bacats32
I am not saying they are on the same table. But clearly they were all on stars. At the least they were all multi accounting.
Winner. It's not close at all, quite clearly there are at least 5 laptops in view (and a bit of a 6th), every screen I see is logged onto stars.

Basically at worst, they are all colluding in SNGs, at best they are all multi-accounting.
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08-13-2010 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by bav
209.19.72.110
That address resolves to 110.72.19.209.transedge.com. According to Border's website http://www.borders.com/online/store/StoreDetailView_603 WiFi for that store is provided by Verizon. (Hover your mose over the wifi symbol over the store picture).
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08-14-2010 , 03:55 PM
@Josem,

Could you confirm that you now have the Border's wireless IP address?

Are you investigating?

Will you make a statement?
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08-14-2010 , 11:44 PM
We will also investigate all players' reports about suspected collusion.
http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/features/security/
If you are dissatisfied with their response and have exhausted all avenues with them, you can contact the Commission by email at gaming@gov.im.
http://www.gov.im/gambling/players.xml

Are you investigating?

Have we exhausted all avenues?

I get paid to be suspicious when I've got nothing to be suspicious about.

Avery Tolar: How'd you find that out?
Bill DeVasher: What do you think I am around here, a ****ing night watchman?

Last edited by VP$IP; 08-14-2010 at 11:51 PM.
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08-15-2010 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroRoller
sure there are



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There are three laptops.
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08-16-2010 , 09:39 AM
Collusion? Online? NOOOOOOO!!! That couldn't happen! Could it?
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08-16-2010 , 09:41 AM
pretty simple to prevent collusion play hu. just make sure its not against any card runners or stox pros.
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08-16-2010 , 11:09 AM
Have these crooks had their laptops seized, bank accounts frozen, and been incarcerated yet?
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08-16-2010 , 11:44 AM
I believe they are about to be thrown into a tank of 80% sulfuric acid with mutant sharks in it. should do the trick.

on a serious note, too bad the photographer didnt go in for some screennames. (likely been stated why but i must have missed the reason)
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08-16-2010 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by prohornblower
Have these crooks had their laptops seized, bank accounts frozen, and been incarcerated yet?
Too funny when people think police have any involvement in online poker situations. This is between the players and Pokerstars, not the government.
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08-16-2010 , 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by aliarspocket
Too funny when people think police have any involvement in online poker situations. This is between the players and Pokerstars, not the government.
get leveled more.

wow Josem, juss wow @ ur posts in here.

GET RID OF DONS STARS
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08-16-2010 , 05:24 PM
Sure Russ Hamilton is behind bars.....preparing champagne cocktails.
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08-20-2010 , 11:41 AM
bump
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08-20-2010 , 01:46 PM
jesus christ poker stars can't you at least ACT like you're trying to do something. i mean you do act so well.

gg
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08-20-2010 , 02:50 PM
One of the reasons people play on PokerStars is because they're the biggest site with the most money and can afford to devote the resources to prevent and catch people like this to provide a secure environment for people to play.

I don't have as high of an opinion about PokerStars security as I once had and it's not just this thread that did it. Josem's initial responses to this thread were troubling. Three players on 6 laptops all logged into PokerStars should at least make PokerStars interested in what's going on and not show indifference.

I understand that Josem posts here as "himself" and not necessarily as a PokerStars security staff member but in threads like this I think he needs to post as Josem The PokerStars security guy and not Josem the 2+2er or not post at all because most people aren't going to differentiate.

Some of the people I've reported for collusion had been so obvious I was disappointed that nothing was done until I reported it.

It's not just in Double or Nothing SnGs. A pair of cheats I discovered colluding in a DoN actually did most of their damage in 6-max SnGs.

I feel bad saying anything negative on PokerStars because they've been pretty good and out of thousands of players I've run across I've only identified less than a dozen cheats but I feel they could do a little more. Based on forum threads FTP seems to suspend accounts and seize funds pretty easily and I understand PokerStars wanting to play it safe and not potentially screw over and innocent customer.

I still feel that PokerStars is one of the best and safest sites to play on but I'm feeling a bit let down.
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08-21-2010 , 01:35 PM
When is CSI:NVG going to be dispatched to the scene to gather clues?

Its pretty hilarious the number of people saying "theres no evidence they were colluding". So...3 dudes carry 6 laptops to borders and fire up poker tables on all of them and risk being caught for multi-accounting just because they prefer playing on 2 separate laptops?

Also, no one at borders thought this was a little weird? If 3 guys come in and sitdown each with 2 laptops I wouldn't instantly jump to the conclusion that they are cheating at online poker, but I'd think there is a good chance they are doing something funny.
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08-21-2010 , 07:25 PM
I imagine they considered the risk low especially if there is a wall behind where the photo was taken.

Most people if they see me playing poker think im just playing a video game.

I am interested to see how this plays out as we now have an IP. Might need to wait another 24 hours for josem cause it is Sunday here in Oz.
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08-21-2010 , 09:19 PM
If they're serious, they have to be ******ed. I'm pretty sure they're playing 5$ sng.

Lets bring 9 laptops to a public place and lets collude. Sounds like we've discovered 3 Einstein.
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08-22-2010 , 12:58 AM
I used to feel safe on stars but w/ the sarcastic comments made by Josem itt and the Asian Dons colluding scandal it's sad and fooking disgraceful. No wonder a player is the one that caught the Asian cheats and a player possibly catching them here. Stars security is too busy making smurky comments on poker forums and taking 4 months to complete an investigation. Never thought I'd say this but FU Stars! Fu%in** fall from grace moothfakers caksuckers!!!
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08-22-2010 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by maxamis
I used to feel safe on stars but w/ the sarcastic comments made by Josem itt and the Asian Dons colluding scandal it's sad and fooking disgraceful. No wonder a player is the one that caught the Asian cheats and a player possibly catching them here. Stars security is too busy making smurky comments on poker forums and taking 4 months to complete an investigation. Never thought I'd say this but FU Stars! Fu%in** fall from grace moothfakers caksuckers!!!

I'm guessing you're not a Sacramento native.
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08-22-2010 , 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TheJacob
When is CSI:NVG going to be dispatched to the scene to gather clues?

Its pretty hilarious the number of people saying "theres no evidence they were colluding". So...3 dudes carry 6 laptops to borders and fire up poker tables on all of them and risk being caught for multi-accounting just because they prefer playing on 2 separate laptops?

Also, no one at borders thought this was a little weird? If 3 guys come in and sitdown each with 2 laptops I wouldn't instantly jump to the conclusion that they are cheating at online poker, but I'd think there is a good chance they are doing something funny.
@Off-topic
@TheJacob
Man, I found a post in this forum while I was searching about a router issue and the post's author is you. You said that you solved your problem with the D-LINK WBR-2310 changing the firmware. I have the same problem, can you contact me? I don't find how to PM you, then send message in this topic. Sorry if someone were bothered. Thank you in advance.
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08-22-2010 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by whale_hunter
I'm guessing you're not a Sacramento native.
Wat? I am from Sac. Don't guess you suck at it.
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08-25-2010 , 04:22 AM
Any updates?
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08-25-2010 , 07:39 AM
If you want to see if PS is doing anything about it, go to the Borders in question and try to log onto Pokerstars and play.
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08-25-2010 , 10:46 AM
If you really want to get PS to move someone needs to get an investigating tv show interested.
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