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07-31-2010 , 06:35 PM
Jessica Welman posted this on Twitter yesterday. For those who don't know, she works for Bluff Magazine and is a co-host of The Poker Beat on PokerRoad Radio.

There are 3 guys @ Borders each playing Stars on 2 laptops. Can't be on the up and up... http://twitpic.com/2a74gv



She definitely should have gone up to see if these guys were playing at the same table. I'm sure they would have been more than happy to show an interested female what they were doing.
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07-31-2010 , 06:45 PM
uh . . . please tell me where said borders is so i can go setup somewhere behind them and still hole card information
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07-31-2010 , 06:54 PM
They don't appear to be hiding it.

If they were cheating, wouldn't they be out in the parking lot?

They look like 2+2 poasters. Maybe they will tell us.

Last edited by VP$IP; 07-31-2010 at 07:00 PM. Reason: They will tell us.
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07-31-2010 , 07:02 PM
maybe they wanted to multitable without cascading.
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07-31-2010 , 07:40 PM
lol. no evidence of them being at the same table, people play next to each other all the time.

Last edited by mersenneary; 07-31-2010 at 07:40 PM. Reason: levelled?
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07-31-2010 , 07:42 PM
Given that they are likely using the Borders wireless connection, and thus would be coming from the same external IP to PokerStars, the software wouldn't let them be at the same table anyway.

Not saying there can't be collusion going on here, but it's not that likely they are all sitting at the same tables.
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07-31-2010 , 07:45 PM
3 guys playing together = normal
3 guys using 2 laptops each = not normal
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07-31-2010 , 07:47 PM
Step 1

Identify which Border's.

Step 2

Obtain higher res image.
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07-31-2010 , 07:53 PM
Ball cap is FTP
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07-31-2010 , 07:55 PM


Full size

Are they playing the same table?

Player on right has two wireless cards plugged in to his computers.

Last edited by VP$IP; 07-31-2010 at 08:02 PM.
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07-31-2010 , 08:08 PM
zzz
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07-31-2010 , 08:09 PM
I'm crazy cuz i'm sure I see five laptops
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07-31-2010 , 08:12 PM
Posting full size image.

click title bar to view.
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07-31-2010 , 08:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shipontilt
I'm crazy cuz i'm sure I see five laptops
At least 6 are visible.

Two are between left players.

Last edited by VP$IP; 07-31-2010 at 08:19 PM. Reason: spelling
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07-31-2010 , 08:17 PM
play manies obv
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07-31-2010 , 08:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shipontilt
I'm crazy cuz i'm sure I see five laptops
I think I see at least 7:

1) two in front of the guy on the left
2) two in front of the guy on the right
3) the guy with the FTP hat, I see two by his left elbow and the bottom of one that he is looking at
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07-31-2010 , 08:23 PM
I didn't this other Twitter post from Jess:

I tried to channel my inner TJ Cookier and collect more clues but I'm not very good @ being stealthy = (
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07-31-2010 , 08:41 PM
Jessica Welman (who made the original tweet) lives in Lexington, and plays at the Horseshoe Southern Indiana.

Nearest Border's is in Louisville, KY


fwiw
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08-01-2010 , 12:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by moki
Given that they are likely using the Borders wireless connection, and thus would be coming from the same external IP to PokerStars, the software wouldn't let them be at the same table anyway.

Not saying there can't be collusion going on here, but it's not that likely they are all sitting at the same tables.
It is possible that only one of them is using the Border's wireless connection.

At least 3 of the computers appear to have long-range wireless adapters visible. If that is true, they would all have different IP providers.







It would be nice to know the date and time that the photo was taken, and conformation of the Border's location.
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08-01-2010 , 12:10 AM
they look like donkeys
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08-01-2010 , 12:22 AM
In response to the question in the title, my ruling is... inconclusive based on the evidence presented
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08-01-2010 , 12:25 AM
It is inconclusive.
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08-01-2010 , 12:26 AM
This is a remarkable combination of:

a) passive-aggressiveness
b) hysteria
c) creepy stalkerness
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08-01-2010 , 12:32 AM
different clients tho
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08-01-2010 , 12:34 AM
is it common to have a guy playing a guitar at borders?
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