How about a little 'can do' attitude. There's only one way to know for sure and that's to try

I imagine there is some sort of way to query hand histories based on different criteria to narrow the possibilities down? If not, one of the developers may be able to do it with little effort.

Just search for hands from DoNs on that date between 19:30 and 19:40 las vegas time where seat 9 is the button, seats 3 and 6 were eliminated, UTG VP$IP, seat 8 raised and UTG has at least one face card. That should return a small enough sample for review. If it doesn't return a small enough sample to work with at least you tried. It shouldn't be too difficult to pull in the info.

If it does return a small enough sample then you check the UTG players to see if they play with any other players more frequently than normal. I hope you have some sort of tool to figure that out. If UTG player does play with any players frequently then review their play for anything suspicious. That doesn't guarantee it's the player in the photo but if you find any suspicious activity as a result then that's not a bad thing.

Knowing the IP address may not help because as others mentioned some of the computers are likely connected to other networks. Also, according to the borders websites Wi-Fi is provided through Verizon for that store so it's going to be a verizon IP address that probably won't help much anyway.

There are a lot of people on 2+2 that line in Vegas. I'm sure someone would be willing to go to that Borders location and record the IP address. Also, i'm sure they could figgure out the IP addresses of the neighboring stores that have free WiFi.

Josem, Is there a way you could possible reward whoever does this, assuming it actually leads to some sort of evidence of cheating/collusion?

their reward will be a better site and that should be enough imo

I agree, and if I lived in Vegas, I would have already done this days ago.

^

I agree that it would be appropriate for Stars to reward someone for doing a thorough job of determining the IP addresses of the LV Town Square Border's, Whole Foods, and any other WiFi signal received at Borders.

Stars would not need to announce a reward here in advance though. It should depend on the accuracy, timeliness, and completeness of the information provided.

And extra credit for photos of these three guys engaging in Full Frontal Noobery.

VPMoney- too many zingers to single any particular one out ITT.

Josem- might want to start wearing a helmet for aussie rules, not sure he even gets the plan yet.

They may have been able to pick up additional wireless signals from that location and therefore play multiple accounts.

I haven't read the whole thread, but I get what's going on.

What is really confusing me is their reasoning why they are in that specfic location?

If they are doing something dodgy, why do it in public if they don't have to? Having their own long-range wireless internet devices means that they could (I guess) be doing this anywhere, including private places? So why borders of all places to choose to do something like this?

But then again, people are stupid and this could just be a really poorly planned cheating scam?

I do admit it looks suspicious, but if they ARE cheating, I cant seem to grasp their thought process behind their choice of location and lack of stealth of this operation?

^^
- Free Border's IP = money saved on air cards?
- Border's on outskirts of cities = stealth enough in their view?
- Cheating noobs?

Motives shouldn't be a first concern, starting an investigation and being aggressive about it should be the first thing to do because there is enough evidence of shady things going on to do that.

Probably easier to just glance 2 feet to the right/left and look at the actual screen that is being played rather than having a laptop take up valuable table space for ghosting purposes.

However I can see the validity in the two end players having an extra lappy to ghost each other as the FT cap wearer is in the way of their field of vision.

Sorry for such a noob question, but wtf are "air cards"? Are they the wireless internet connection devices (because if so that's cool, they just have a different name where I live)?

Also, I agree an investigation should definitely be started. No harm in investigating if they have nothing to hide, right? I am just a bit confused (and I guess sceptical) because of their apparrent disregard to making themselves look unsuspicious, guess I'm levelling myself.

Read the thread and you'll understand things more clearly.

play hu only, problem solved.

Or if you are not a HU player don't play at all, problem solved.

Maybe they were cheating, probably not though. There is only 1 thing im 100% sure of after reading this thread .

Flip-flop u need to smoke a few joints and chilltf out man.

I stopped smoking pot 18 years ago.
Any other advice?

Lets talk about this "probably not though" part of your post.
How did you come up with that conclusion?

There's three laptops.

You are half right.
You are right if you close one eye though.

Every guy has a laptop in front of him, the guy on the left even has two. The guy in the middle looks like he's glancing to his right. Why does this thread exist?

I wonder how life feels when you are living it in complete denial.
Must be nice.

Maybe he's using Caro-speak cause some of them are notebooks or netbooks, whatever those small laptops are called?

gTg

I doubt he is using anything.

I think I just got leveled hard.

Observational skills: 0/10

Reading comprehension skills ("There are 3 guys @ Borders each playing Stars on 2 laptops"): 0/10

Language skill: 0/10 (There ARE three laptops.)