Or Lactating Lesbian Liar.

interesting article on the possible mindset of Jose that caused this whole fiasco, sry if already linked earlier...
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/news/wo...Tendler_50148/

i cant keep up good stuff tho

Gregorio self-banned himself because he didn't agree with the political direction 2+2 was taking (cough, vote for Gary Johnson, cough). However, it would be nice if he would make a brief exception and share his thoughts on the matter. I think having a mod vociferously argue for Jose's veracity carried a lot of weight with people. He was making veiled threats of banning people for questioning Jose -- which, in hindsight, wasn't the greatest move.

It was Adam who said he had three people he trusted. Still thinking about it, but pretty sure my number is actually 0 (if they weren`t in the same room as me).

I`m not sure how having the opinion that it`s foolish to show people your holecards from a remote location when you aren`t 100% sure what they may or may not do with that information is `flaming`. It`s an opinion and I guarantee you I`m not the only one who thinks that way.

It`s nothing personal against the guys in this particular story. If this happened to friends of mine, I`d think it was foolish of them too.

Successful fraud requires both a set of skills and a willingness to deliberately target and deceive others.
This capacity is actually quite rare and often associated with personality disorder


Typically, those committing fraud use psychological strategies to distance themselves from any sense of guilt.
Criminologists refer to this as ‘neutralisation’

internet/online fraud guarantees a psychological distance between fraudster and victim. The technology already provides
a significant amount of depersonalisation:
a ready-made neutralisation strategy

Motivation> Opportunity> Rationalization is what jose/DIH need to answer to get a full understanding of why.

Jose has a personality disorder 100%.
DIH also exhibts very similar behaviour.

You are entitled to your oppinion, but if you look at my post history, more then 6 months ago, I knew this for exactly what it was. May seem random to you ofc, but just balancing my thoughts, not trying to drive home the same thing with every post. Anyway, as I see your a Gregorio fan, and you think hes a noble man for doing what he did, thats fair. Next time leave out the backhanded compliments, thanks...

please take foot out of mouth. this sounds as scripted as it gets. hmm who could be telling u what to say???

Yea he warned me and PM'd me on one of them days yuor talkign about, when for months I had been followign the original thread, minding my own, and BAM, one day all of a sudden he was in the thread, throwing warnings, and etc etc. I decided before getting the banhammer, already had like 50+ pts , I would lay off the thread a while. So thats why I ask, glad I am not the only one who was wondering this.

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they need to learn to live in gratitude faster, than tthey learned poker .

1 out ,

break this1

I got a 40 point'er for the comments I made for calling Jose "the fraud" Macedo

Glad this is being mentioned then, I thought I was the only one.

Ha ha ha. We should start a separate thread where everyone can list the infractions (and point value) they received for questioning Jose. Don't want to clutter up this thread though (moreso than it is).

gg 2+2

anybody who thinks dogishead is more guilty than jungleman ought to get their heads checked. No way in hell is jungleman innocent in this. not only has this whole thing been very shady but the lack of silence once a scandal breaks tells all. DIH has just been more vocally adamant about posting lies and coverups as opposed to just sitting back like jungle. I think its quite clear they were both using jose's name to gain access to euro sites and possibly both aided in helping him build a persona that was obviously fake and may also have helped him win the monthly poker challenge. I cant believe that jungleman would ever try and run some 'petty' scam to try and get a few K at a time but the longer he goes silent the more Ill dismiss that. 'At one point or another everyone eventually will let you down.' seems so true nowadays

Thread about to be locked. You guys should probably repost your recent posts in new thread if you want them read.

Last?

I laughed

Gregorio and Rangey got into a discussion (argument) and this prompted another discussion that mods should remain reasonably impartial in situations like this, in the forums they moderate. Obviously this applies both ways so the mods that suspected this whole thing stunk to high heaven (cough) from the outset kept their opinions to themselves. I PMed Rangey the early morning of alerting him when the OTHER thread was only 50 posts deep but other than that...
To my knowledge nobody actually knew, and mods are not some secret cabal of overlords. For every mod that might have a blind bias in favor of DIH/Jose, there's another that would use the IP information to freeroll blast the "real" bet. The fact is after the computards computarded, IP became a huge deal now and there are hoops to jump through. (before it was openly displayed for every mod to check whenever) Plus, a strong part of me unfortunately suspects it might have a bunch to do with this, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect where everybody just assumed somebody else already handled it.
I'm still grunching btw, almost caught up, apologies if I don't respond.

Oh gawdamit I didnt notice this one was locked too.