I am a bit confused why they are willing to

What connection beyond being friends, does JM and DIH have with this guy?

would love to get Pam Brunson's thoughts on this whole ordeal.

Agree 100%. Quite frustrating to see several months of intense discussion and analysis reduced to these bullet points. So much of what's transpired today makes so much more sense in the context of what's happened in the past few months.

Cliffs: I hate Cliffs

MossBoss, thanks for the chatlogs, but as you said the Haseeb chatlogs are really key at this point.

Edit: Copied the chatlogs into a text doc, just in case....

what's interesting is that dogishead apparently took a break from poker after being crushed by isildur? it certainly makes it atleast feasible then that he could have used this time to play the euro sites instead through jose.

another thing to think about is both jungle and DIH claim to be very close with jose. with them all being poker players im sure its reasonable to suggest that 90% of their discussions would have been about poker strategy... so how is it after being close to jose for so long they did not realise that this guy is actually a mediocre mid stakes player. how did these great 'poker minds' not pick up on this especially considering that several players in the original girah thread became suspicious of jose's bad play after watching him for just 30mins...

Doesn't matter how ****ing easily some people are making top .0001% in the world money legit, if there's a way they can make twice that amount by being pieces of **** they'll do it.

I have no idea why Rangey & I have been sidestepped. We have done behind the scenes work which won't make it into this thread yet. I guess we can't stop it now?

Thanks for the cliffs OP. It would be appreciated if the more 'valuable' posters could somehow be highlighted or edited into the OP. And by valuable, I mean posters who contribute to the progression of the 'plot' and are involved in this someway or another.

I remember reading bout when Imfromsweden was scammed, this was a long time ago (maybe a year or more), why has it only just come out now that girah was the scammer? Have they only just discovered that girah and the scammer are the same person?

no, IFS has been scammed twice, girah is the second.

Thanks OP, great job with the cliffs...

[05/08/2011 17:45:59] josé maria macedo: im not interested in going public
[05/08/2011 17:45:59] josé maria macedo: im not interested in going public
[05/08/2011 17:45:59] josé maria macedo: im not interested in going public
[05/08/2011 17:45:59] josé maria macedo: im not interested in going public
[05/08/2011 17:45:59] josé maria macedo: im not interested in going public
[05/08/2011 17:45:59] josé maria macedo: im not interested in going public
[05/08/2011 17:45:59] josé maria macedo: im not interested in going public

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Thank you for the cliffs!
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yeah lol'd when i read that the first time

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I don't think that being concerned about the overall climate of online poker (full of mostly honest people or full of a lot of scummy people) is being a dramaqueen.

A lot of people put a lot of stock in what respected HS players have to say - finding out that they may be involved in a blatant superuser scam makes me that much more likely to trust the overall environment.

But thanks for your input. I needed a history lesson on the overall scumminess of mankind.

All makes sense now really..... this so called poker prodigy, wanted to look like just that.... a prodigy, when Jungle and haseeb got to his place. He wanted to be able to show them 250k+ online so they could play some highstakes, and he could make some transfers to them... it's all too obvious really..

Just another young, and rather dumb immature kid imo

But it was the same scam on the same site, IFS really fell for this twice?

Was the Girah stuff very recent?

they're moving in together per:

Scammers got scammed.

Would read again.

[05/08/2011 17:32:11] josé maria macedo: this was never planned at all
[05/08/2011 17:32:14] josé maria macedo: im a good guy i think

DogIsHead, why did you log on Girah's ipoker account? Are you also the one that logged on his Lock account?

[05/08/2011 17:32:19] josé maria macedo: i just made a mistake
[05/08/2011 17:32:24] josé maria macedo: just dont ruin my life
[05/08/2011 17:33:08] josé maria macedo: ive already told my mum

yeah, all happened within the last month

Thing you're missing in the OP is TC1 is pretty suspect here, I mean he claims to be up a bunch but all these people talking about how his advice is suspect? And I'm pretty sure he's up a good amount so how else would he win it other than superusing? Add in the fact that he lost the least amount of money to the superuser (but still lost some just so he'd seem innocent) and it kinda makes you go hmm...

I think that before he posts all his lifetime hands from all poker accounts here for NVG masterminds to investigate that we should assume he's behind this as well as that he molests children in his spare time and is responsible for the holocaust, 9/11, and world hunger. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if DiH, Jungle, sauce, durrrr, isildur, and probably many more so-called high stakes players (we also need ip details from TC1 and every poker player who's won money playing 5/10+ on any poker site) are the creation of TC1 and that he has used those accounts to scam millions from honest poker players. Because Girah scammed we have to question every detail of what we thought we knew about online poker and no one should be devoid of suspicion. Let the witch hunt begin!