Scott Fischman
http://officialpokerrankings.com/ful...2955B.html?t=2
-ROI

Keith Sexton
http://officialpokerrankings.com/ful...16FF9.html?t=2
-ROI

Chris Klecz
http://officialpokerrankings.com/ful...F972D.html?t=2
-ROI

I'm sure there's gotta be more...

Who cares

You would think Full Tilt would... why would they want losing players representing their site?

It's called regression towards the mean.

Best wishes,
Mason

HAHAHA
Well put Mason. You rule

put Adam Schoenfeld on that list, too

FWIW Adam schoenfeld is probably the only red name that i've played with that I would consider a winning player.

You get a t-shirt for knocking them out of a Tournament

except he's not
http://officialpokerrankings.com/ful...F6FB5.html?t=2

I'm pretty sure he's in the red for six figures in WSOP tourneys, too

Jordan Morga, Voss, antonius, ivey?

I'm pretty sure he hasn't played with ivey/antonius/ etc. most people who post in nvg don;t play 1k/2k ish

it's good that they have some losers cuz most people who play on FTP are losers and it makes it easier on them, cuz they can lose a few hundo and be like well... gus lost 2 mil, so im not doin that bad

do you know how bad it would be if every red pro was a winnar on ftp? people would rip ftp sooooo hard for being rigged.


also, a lot of people who lose BIG like gus have made money in other places like live tourneys.

Man... they really suck... - Roi is horrible
Maybe they should lower down their stakes

i think both of the jetts are consistent losers, although I haven't seen them in a while, maybe they got dropped?

If all the FT red pros were winners, I'd suspect that they can see your hole cards.

WTF are you talking about, he's cashed in almost EVERY tournament...

Jonathon Little used his pro status to effectively beat the sit and go's by breaking even.... until he got caught.

This thread has reached 4 pages and I still see no mention of phil gordon, somebody flame him please.

These are just high variance tourneys we are talking about. Has nothing to do with if they are winners or losers. They could be doing very well at ring games.

this

I played with girl Jett (cant remember name) the other day, she was still bad.

A good number of the guys in red aren't "pros." A lot of them are friends of full tilt and might not even play poker for income (ie James McManus, Bruce Buffer, Michael Craig).

Also, many of the red pros play much lower stakes online so they can mix and mingle with the low limit players that come to "learn chat and ...," while they'll continue to play high live. And some players just suck online while still owning live (like Matusow did for a loooong time).

Thirdly, they get their hourly rate no matter what stakes they play, so many of them are just playing for enjoyment or to kill time while online, ergo their results wouldn't be that great.

Lastly, some of them luckboxed their way into a deal, suck, and are busto. (but I still think that's only a few)

we all know full tilt is plagued with really bad pros like carina jett roland de trout mark vos etc. pros like them are signed 4 life, and that is simply a shame.

full tilt should change theyre contract and require the pros to do something meaningful in the pokerworld such as win an event online or live in the next 2 yrs, win 100 bi's, go on a bad run and go totally busto like brad booth, or atleast win a cool million or cause some kind of a sturr etc.. otherwise, they get dropped. this needs not to apply to the legends like ivey, gus honson, antoinus, mikey, and even benyamine the degenyamine (hes a legend in my book). for them, simply sitting out at a table is causing a stir.

this would motivate some of the unknown pros to try and actually do something and also thin the field of useless red names rather than just live off 100% rb and free entries and endorsements.

sure fulltilt have dropped some of they're pros BUT it isn't for not making things happen, its for multi accting.

in the end, it seems like full tilt is trying to pull our chains by saying "play at our site, we have all these sick, skillful pros here with red names, play with them and ull get better" im not in the least way awestruck when carina jett or gamble ab takes a seat at my table or and im sure ur not either. what have they done in the poker world lately.

the entire "play with the pros" slogan is a shame imo. b/c to play with the true pros, ud need a decent buyin if the game isn't some dumb charity game that they play.

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