So let me get this straight ( no pun intended).

You were dating women as a man.

You became a "women" presumably because you are gay and wanted to date men.

But you date women.

Right?

Did you read any of her posts before commenting? She has explained herself 5 times already. So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know the plot. You're out of your element.

In before Sklansky.

does this sum it up?

Can we pretend like this is survivor and vote it off our island

Its getting too obvious...

Not the first time "natal female" has been mentioned. I was fairly sure it wasn't a reference to a woman from a region of South Africa, but I wasn't sure what it did mean. Having looked it up, "natal female" = someone who for all intents and purposes was genetically born as a female. Correct?

hey rosa,

I am kinda wondering why it is that you say you dress to attract men however you are only interested in dating women. That kind of seems illogical to me, shouldn't you be dressing to try to attract the gender you're interested in?

Hi Rosa -

As someone who claims to be as open-minded as you do, can you please let us know what a "typical dyke" looks like? As a gay man in general, and gay poker player more specifically, I've heard it all. To top it off (no pun intended), I read NVG And I read it because it's ****ing funny. But for you to come on NVG to try and educate, but then say something like that... you're not helping your cause.

Can you explain this a bit? I don't understand the desire to attract a gender that you have no interest in. Is it just an attention thing?

Girls who were born girls do this also (dress to attract men, when they don't actually want to attract a man). Maybe you could ask one of them about it.

I find it hilarious that people would care so much about someones gender/sexual desire/body parts.

I'd be willing to bet that when she is playing at the Borgata, or elsewhere, not one single person insults her to her face. Not to say she doesn't cause confusion, or curiosity, but nobody has their monitor to hide behind. I'm not saying that anyone here has any compassion; I'm saying you don't have the balls. (even if she does)

gg Rosa.

do you still have your penis?

serious question.

incredible respect for having the balls (no pun intended) to post here

nh

OP. If I was facing this 'woman' i'd donk all my chip's off and run away...far far away

okay, so i don't know how common a transgender being attracted to the same sex is but i had a friend in highschool who said her uncle was a transgender that married a woman. would one of your cousins be jennifer from socal?

that is an incredible woman, and deserves to go to a ball. EVERY PRETTY LADY DESERVES TO GO TO A BALL!!!

i'd hit it

Why are we douches just because we have a little laugh about someone who looks funny/disgusting? It's the same exact way with a ton of weird looking people. Gobbo, for example, has been ridiculed on this board over and over and has had a lot more to complain about in the past, but he admits he looks a bit funny and has a good laugh about it. That's the way to go. Follow his example, and don't be offended. You knew people would find you weird/ugly/disgusting when you went ahead and changed your sex. I'm not saying you shouldn't have done it because of that, but you took it for granted because this was how you wanted to look.

Noone in here has slandered your name. All we have done is made fun of how you look. Anyone who sees you can tell how you look. Most people here truly don't care you exist. Decency is for live play, on the internet, there is no need to be decent or civil. We just say whatever we want and think. It's much more honest in that way. These people had no way of knowing you would ever see this, and therefore never intended to hurt you in any way. This is just how they feel about the subject. Learn from it, because IRL you'll never experience such honesty.

Please, stop using "straight" and "gay" like it's supposed to be within "". It's not. Both straight and gay are very clear and bordered concepts. 99% of people fit into one of these two catagories. There is no need for "". You are different than 99% of people. You are not a threat to men. His peers wouldn't apply social pressure, but he would create this himself. You look like a man with a partly female body. To date you would be as gay as dating any woman who looks like a man. I have no problem with the fact you were once a man, but I have a problem with the fact that you still look like one, but you added some tits and long hair. The fact you try to appeal to the ego of straight men by talking about fear and being scared of you by saying you think straight men should be fearless just shows you truly don't understand. All the men here say you're disgusting because that is how they truly feel, they are declaring their personal preference of NOT you. They don't say this because they fear you or don't understand you, they say this because this is truly how they feel.
How very hypocritical of you to say you don't look like a typical dyke. I assume by this statement you mean the short-haired Home Depot stereotype of a lesbian? You say this while you are trying to argue you think the stereotypes about your own kind should be banned and people shouldn't be so out-spoken and practice a little decency? Oh my, you're even worse than I thought.

Talking about what's between your legs and what kind of men you would like may seem irrelevant to you, but it will help educate the public about your kind. Isn't that what you wanted in the first place? To gain recognizion and respect you must teach the people what you are. You want straight men to want you, while you are a lesbian. To me, this sounds like you have very serious self-esteem issues. Why do you want to attract people you are not attracted to? Just because you want people to think you're hot to boost your ego. How low must your self-esteem be if you're willing to go through all the lengths of getting tits, long hair, soft skin and whatnot just for a little boost. You're truly pathetic.

It is gay to want to have sex with someone of the same gender. It is straight to want to have sex with someone of the opposite gender. For 99% of people, there is no gray area. Some people like fat chicks, some people like skinny chicks, some people like short hair and small breasts, others the opposite. I don't think there's a lot of men out there who like women with facial hair, but I can imagine there being men who don't really care about it. All these men are straight. The difference between a man and a woman is big and obvious. If you can't tell if someone is a man or a woman, and you wan't to have sex with it, I have no idea what to call your sexual preference.


tl;dr: You are NOT a threat to us. You are NOT intimidating, scary or fearsome. You are just a freak and a very weird dude and we're pointing that fact out and having a laugh about it. Deal with it, or GTFO.


PS. This got a lot longer than I expected, but your ignorance really pisses me off. Please feel free to ignore this and live on in your own little world thinking the world is out to get you. I just had to get this off my chest. You people really annoy me.

2p2ers are embarassingly uninformed and bigoted, news at 11!

she's getting it removed

OK, the_letter_f you like to call people narrow-minded. I don't blame you for your gender issues (it must have been EXTREMELY difficult growing up) and it is quite likely that you were born a man when you should have been a woman. But you can't go around blaming people for their societal ingrained sexual identities that they have been bombarded by their whole lives. We can't control this as much as you can control what you think of yourself. A supposedly straight man could easily find you attractive (regardless of what ****** virgin posters might say).. my question is how you would respond to this attention. Would you be straightforward about your upbringing from the beginning?

While I have to say that I think Rosa has taken a lot of guff here and almost surely has in life in general, Lenny makes some excellent points. That said, I think probably the defensiveness that Rosa threw out there has to be some sort of coping mechanism, so the whole things seems rather tragic to me and I'm still sympathetic.

Holy crap, I selectively read probably 5-10% of this thread, and I think you all need to stop.
This thread should be black holed for the respect of those who could be offended by such prejudice comments.

If Rose/The_letter_F is bothersome, or weird in anyway to you, ignore it. I can't even fathom how any of you idiots think it's your place to tell people who, or what they are. Get off your high horse and shut your ****ing mouth before you get yourself stabbed in the throat for being an ignorant hater.


Threads like this only remind each other of how far we still must improve as a society to make this world a pleasant, peaceful place.

Again I will say it; If rose is not acceptable to your reasons of conductivity, then ignore it and leave the room. The world is not yours, and neither is the internet, so shut your goddamn mouth, and think about what your grandmother would think if she saw how ignorant and hateful you are.

I first read this, as most NVG, for a good laugh.
Some of it was pretty stinkin' funny.

Obvious remarks lend themselves to the insight of what the poster
is actually like as a person. No real brain surgery here.

If I ever see her at a poker tournament down at Foxwoods or Mohegan or anywhere else,
while everyone else is debating the issues posted here and in their heads ,
I'll just be taking her chips !! Chips are non- denominational.