How should you treat someone that owes you money and wont pay you back?

I think its appropriate to shame the guy and make him feel like a little weasel every day of his life. At the very least it will decrease the likelihood Chino scams again and brings attention to other players not to loan him $

Early Chino sighting?

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he must think anonymous-1 is a real pussy, i mean wtf. total disrespect in so many levels.

Yea you gotta stand your ground there. Even a just a swift quick in the balls would do

Can we please delete this thread and sweep this under the rug?

Hi Chino

Chino don’t care he probably loves this thread, pretty sure chino loves being chino , and chinos ppl bc he thinks they will enjoy being chino”d and will have a story to tell their kids when grow up

The fact that alleged scam artists are walking around apparently unharmed shows how little people benefit from playing poker for a living with the easy lifestyle they get instead of earning it doing something challenging. Of course you don't learn lessons like standing up for yourself.

Then you have Eli Elezra coming into the 2+2 forums on a mission for profit, getting outed, then having the mods delete the thread. What a life we are living.

is it +EV to "chino" people until someone who has $ but is pissed off that he got screwed gets angry enough to kick your a$$ in public and you sue for damages?

Report him to ic3.gov sounds like fraud to me, maybe they can help

You can take millions from poker players because they are mostly cowards and don't have the balls to do anything about it. You can just steal and you won't even get your ass kicked. Pathetic really.

Speaking from experience uh ?

Can you read all the stories and threads and come to a different conclusion?

Chino in the final 4 of Aussie Millions 25k, there is no God

And the chip leader, no less.

All the talk about beating up people who owe you money is hilarious. It should be obvious why you wouldn't want to take that route, but for the internet tough guys who don't understand why, here are a few reasons:

- It won't get you your money back. He's not going to say "welp, he kicked the **** out of me, better go run to the bank real quick". If it doesn't work the first time are you going to do it a second time and run the risks all over again?

- It may not be the first time this guy's gotten his kicked, so there's no guarantee that it matters to him or that he hasn't accepted an ass-kicking as one of the risks associated with scamming others.

- The guy whose ass you're trying to kick may himself be a bad cat and kick your ass instead.

- Villain might be packing a firearm or a knife.

- Villain may know people who can retaliate on his behalf.

- It's not 1970 anymore, and you can't just pound knots on someone's head because they owe you money. If you kick someone's ass unprovoked that person can contact the police and press charges. He can hire a lawyer with your money and take you to court. And it's overwhelmingly likely that he'll win, and you'll not only be out the money he stole from you, but now you'll be on the hook for damages, medical costs, lawyer costs for both parties, court fees, possibly fines and/or jail time, and possibly a criminal conviction on your record.

i mean we all know that obviously, thats why nothing gets done

I agree it is a last resort, but scammers know this. Look at a guy like Chino or NYpokertard, those punks would roll over the second they think somebody might actually go ape**** and do something to them, I doubt you'd ever need to actually do anything but take an aggressive stance. You make it seem like they're the baddest badasses with gangs protecting them while they are likely to be total whimps that bluff their way through. The fact that you rule out violence right away is something that scammers know and this is how they get away with it.

And listen, I'm not saying any of this is without risk and for some smallish amount I really wouldn't advice anyone to take measures like this. Fact is lowlife scum like this knows people act within the bounds and exploit this. If you're willing to loan money to idiots like this you have to be either be prepared to willingly part with your money or fight for it. They don't give a **** you post it on an internet forum or you send them 20 messages, instead they laugh at it and win tournaments for $1,5M while giving you the finger.

Basically what I'm saying is "don't ever loan poker scum money no matter what", but if you did and want a solution, talking about it on the internet is just forfeiting your manhood. And hey, if you decide it was a calculated risk and got scammed and aren't prepared to do something about it that is also fine. I just hate these calculated risks and then also the whining on the internet.

I have independently confirmed this by thinking about it.

You're probably right, but I would assume the worst when dealing with someone like this.

This seems like a great idea if you'd like to increase the likelihood and severity of charges brought against you. Premeditated criminal acts like assault with a deadly weapon, manslaughter, attempted murder, murder charges are all on the table here.

Yes, only in USA#1 will you find firearms, knives, or other weapons on one's person, especially those who live on the margins.

Another excellent strategy for bringing upon more charges and of greater severity. Conspiracy to commit assault, intimidation, harrassment, negligent homicide, manslaughter, murder, etc. sound fun to try to wiggle one's way out of, and to bring your friends into it? Sign me up.

This is an excellent reason why you wouldn't want use violence against them. They won't just take the ass whooping, they'll do something chicken **** like get the police involved, have associates gang up on you at another time, use a weapon, etc.

I would argue that given possible outcomes consisting of absolutely nothing, to personal injury or death, to criminal charges leading to expensive legal fees and/or convictions and/or spending time looking forward to three hots from a cell block and ****ing your fifi, that simply taking the loss is less of a forfeiture of one's manhood -- whatever that is, and for whomever may have an ego so fragile that they care about such a thing.

You're right it's a stupid idea. Let's do nothing and write sad threads about how we get scammed on the internet. Can we at least come to some sort of agreement that anyone from now on should understand the risks of loaning money and that when they get scammed we don't get any more of those pathetic threads on 2+2?

Lol cmon man your hands down the most active guy in threads of this nature don't act like you wouldn't be lost without them.

I am always intrigued. They start out well with someone being the victim and giving the facts. The mob gathers and all kinds of social pressure is applied, and then the thing calms down and nothing happens. Nobody ever gets paid, the situation is exactly the same and what is worse is that they just keep doing their thing (or winning $1,5M). I feel like getting blue balled every single time.

I completely agree with that and it's fairly predictable timeline of how these things go. But the thread is 8 years old and it's impossible for me to think it hasn't stopped at least 1 person from loaning the guy. Hence it has a purpose no matter how pathetic.