OP, you were so stupid and you just have to move on. Most poker players are broke. If they were rich, they'd quit poker in an instant and pursue in business endeavours.

Chino would still be broke even if he won a major poker tournament. Sucks to be him.

Seriously. Gobbo will have to come back here and do a little house-cleaning soon, I guess.

Don't know if he remembers it, but Jimmy and I conversed about this very subject at Bellagio last fall. One of my pet peeves, I said, are guys who hide behind the anonymity of the internet to say things they wouldn't have the stones for in real life. The oddity of this conversation was that I had essentially called such a person out on another poker forum a few weeks prior, offering to meet some forum troll at that very Bellagio event (where he claimed to be headed). I wasn't being a "tough guy"; in fact, I certainly made it clear that I am not one. Instead, I wanted to see if the OTHER guy was willing to back up his posturing.

Anyway, that's neither here nor there. Back to the subject at hand:

Save for the occasional "I mentioned this in passing a few years ago" moments and Haralabos' flag/cranberry story notwithstanding, how far back does this reputation go for Chino? More specifically, when he picked off those two big scores back in 2008, did Chino have a mob of people waiting for him at the cashier? Or is the severity of his debt a more recent phenomenon?

As said before, good luck to Will and others in getting their money back. The sad thing is, it probably means I'll have to hope Chino ships a huge tournament AND that his creditors are right there waiting to collect. While I certainly hope the latter get their wish, doing the first will be a stomach-turning experience for many.

Id be scamming people all the time too if there were never any consequences to it

true, just bend over and spread em.....then after that post on the internet to let everyone know - that'll teach him a lesson!

I guess subiime missed this.

Looks like all the Chino stories coming out of the woodwork. Just finished talking to a friend of mine, he's got not one, but TWO Chino stories. It was a long conversation so i'll try my best to remember the details...

FIRST STORY:

My buddy was registering for a WPT event, and while in line, Chino came up to him in the line and asked if he played in the 5 Diamond, my friend did but not the ME...Chino said he recognized him from the Bellagio and said he's a great player, etc... eventually he got to the meat and potatoes and asked for a loan, he said he maxed his bank cards and cc's, after dropping some cash at the club the night before. My friend turned him down, said he didn't have much money.

Chino then went into "why don't you stake me" mode. Told my friend they'd have a much better chance of him playing. That he should give up his buyin for him. The funny part is it's probably true, but my friend declined again. Chino then insta guilt tripped him with some story about how all the pros are friends, and he'd remember my friend disrespecting him and that he'd get shut out of all the great games if he ever made it, etc.. my friend said maybe he'd ask another guy and asked for Chino's number and he'd call him in 30 minutes. Chino insisted to call now, my friend at that point got pissed off and told him to get lost, and Chino finally left...

SECOND, relates to a friend of a friend...we will call him Mr. Ig

So Mr. Ig was stayin for free at grinders house, some korean guy flew in and when Mr. Ig fell asleep, Chino logged into his laptop and lost his 15k online bankroll. When Mr. Ig saw his account was empty in the morning, Chino told him he'd pay him back later...5 years later....still nada

honestly don't know how you guys lets this stuff fly..if anyone stole money from me(besides ftp obv lol) they wouldn't be showing their face around the poker scene...

I find it amazing that in this day and age of the poker player...with ev this and triple barrel that...that they lend $$ to someone they dont know expecting to get it back just because they saw him on tv.
You would think poker players would know shi.t like this now, you know, since they are "mostly" degens themselves. But hey..even durrr loaned him $$.
Sharp group you guys are.

People should also provide a list of people who have vouched, stood up, or protected Chino. When the guy is running as many blatant scams as this guy an effective deterrent is shaming/peeling back his support system.

Wow outright theft plain and simple. I know online poker seems to have been a grey area legally in the US, and I am disappointed (as a UK citizen) to admit that it seems the regulation from UK protectorates has been rubbish, but I don't understand why nobody ever did anything in the US. I would if this sort fo thing happened over here.

I highly suggest everyone email www.epicpoker.com and hit up the contact us and let them know about chino and link them to this thread

Chino putting dirty beats on people in the EPL as this thread grows.

subiime, when you saw chino today, did you ask for your money?

someone who chino scammed for a lot of money should hire someone to make a website like www.ChinoRheemOwesMe.com and everyone can post their scam stories etc. This should be really cheap to hire someone to build.

then just slap that sht all over Facebook and make stickers, cards, flyers etc. and pass them out at every event he's in.

I can help you lie to yourself. Realise people are posting about him in a forum that you enjoy visiting. A forum that thousands of people visit daily. Now, watch how many views and posts this thread gets. After a couple days, you will realise what you have already known. His level of visibility and how well he is known grows on a daily basis, therefor: he is a celebrity.

No go ahead and put him in that pool with no qualms.

edit:

wtf. anytime i speed read a thread, i never notice a durrrr post until someone quotes him to say hi. has a happened on a few occasions and not with any other pro.


mr. anon.. if this is true,i am in awe of your composure. I am very easy going, but I would have snap snapped. you have ice water in your veins.

I only read the first 200 responses but I'm going to make a post on behalf of the EPL in regards to why certain people are eligible to play.

I am one of the members of the standards of conduct committee for EPL and Monday we had a long but confidential meeting regarding players who have previously acted in a manner that would be deemed unprofessional.

Offenses such as cheating, poor sportsmanship, public intoxication, a criminal record, and failure to follow financial agreements are all things that the league will not stand for.

We compiled a list of all players who we believed had previously conducted themselves in a way that if continued would lead to their elimination from the league and personally reminded each individual that they will not be allowed to participate in the league if their future behavior is the same as their past behavior.

I don't want to talk about any specifics but I will say that people who are poor representitives of the game of poker will not last very long in this league and the epl will publicly "out" people who are kicked out of the league rather than simply tell them not to show up and keep it hush-hush

I have no idea what you mean.

God damn molswi47, have so much money now! FML!

What a great job you guys did, considering Chino was allowed to play.

I think someone who has been scammed or someone more motivated than myself should make a facebook and wiki page outing him as a scammer with links to all the stories in the 2 threads here., the guy is a complete sociopath and 2+2 alone wont be enough to stop Chino from scamming more people.

This is such bs. If you actually cared about a code of conduct you wouldnt let Chino play in the first place. Youre really saying that if someone comes and posts tomorrow itt that they got Chino'd that you will kick him out the EPL? No. What will happen is you'll issue some hollow threat to wise up or give him a warning or claim theres not enough evidence.

You forget to tell him that it's also affect, rather than effect.

So are you saying that if Chino borrows money from today forward, and doesn't pay it back, he's out; but if he continues to not pay back people he borrowed from prior to today, he's OK since the loan happened before the league started? Or are you giving him a certain amount of time to pay back all his victims and if he doesn't you kick him out?

Annie Duke kicked out yet?

How come don't see you on Stars no more? New School's like a different gen now, sad...

The reason you don't want to see other people murdered is because in the deep dark recesses of your brain, seeing someone murdered means that A) that person can no longer contribute to your tribe (and thus your well-being) and B) if someone can get murdered, you are slightly more likely to get murdered yourself.