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Old 08-09-2011, 02:34 PM   #1
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Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

Hello all,
Firstly, let me introduce myself since I rarely post on here. My name is Will Molson and my pokerstars alias is molswi47. It is unfortunate that I have to write my first long post on 2+2 with this warning to everyone. I feel bad that I delayed sharing this story for so long and missed an opportunity to warn others after recently seeing Ben Lamb's and others get screwed over by Chino. I am going to try and make this short and to the point.

The incident occurred last year at ept london. My friend brought chino into our room to hang out and play some online. This was the first time I met him but obviously knew about him from all his tv appearances and from seeing him playing all the big tournaments. It was towards the end of the trip and there was only the turbo high roller left on the schedule. He claimed that he needed stars money so he can directly buy in to the event and would swap ftp money in return. He also says that his boy Michael Mizrachi needs the same hook up and tells me, after calling him, that I will be getting a xfer from the grinder on ftp for the both of them. This is after him shipping the players championship and final tabling the main, so I obviously thought that there would be nothing fishy about this transaction.

I agree to this and ship 20k to him and 20k to grinder so that they can buy in in the morning. Xfer doesn't go through because it was the first time I would be xfering to their accounts and stars support was busy. Tournament is about to start so I have to go the stars desk and ask them if they can manually allow the xfer to go through. They get the money - everything is all good. I bust and later that day I see stars shipped 40k to both of them instead of 20k each. They made a new 20k xfer and after that was processed the other xfer was then able to then go through they tell me. I'm then make a big scene at the desk but they say they can't do anything.

I get on my flight back to Canada later on that day and get home to see that Chino has come 3rd in the event for 150k. I text both of them to see if they got double the planned amount and both of them confirm this with me. So I think all is good lol - but nah. Grinder ships me back the 40k and says I never agreed to vouch or send for Chino. Chino then becomes very hard to get a hold of and is making all these excuses as to why he hasn't shipped on tilt yet. After weeks and weeks of trying to get my money I finally get a text from his saying I'm broke and I can't get you the money... lol wtf? Dude, you cashed in the event I got you into for 150k and you don't have the courtesy to ship back asap? Grinder texts me and says he can't do anything and that he's gotten Chino out of these holes in the past but is done with it now. Chino still "owes" me 40k almost a year later. I put that into parentheses because he flat out stole from me and it's at the point where I don't expect to see my money back. He flat out stole from me and had no intention of swapping ftp money with me. I waited awhile to out this mainly because I thought there would be a better chance seeing the money if I kept it low key for awhile and gave him time.
Glad I got this off my chest - off to play day one of epic poker league now. I will defs be letting Chino know, if I see him (he qualified for event), that his already battered rep in the poker world just got a whole lot worse. **** been hitting the fan past few days in the poker world. Hopefully this isn't overshadowed by the other scandals and this story gets the proper exposure it should.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:36 PM   #2
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

gonna be seeing more and more of this i'm afraid
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:41 PM   #3
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

How does this POS still have his knees intact? Unreal. Good luck dude.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:42 PM   #4
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

Jesus. What's next?
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:43 PM   #5
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sickkkkk
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:43 PM   #6
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

yup that sounds about right... ul the list to get paid back is long, maybe this post will help to move u up the list
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:44 PM   #7
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

It's never enough, is it?
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:44 PM   #8
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Wow, this guy is really one huge piece of ****.


And sorry about Grinder, but you are absolutely judged by the company you keep.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:44 PM   #9
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

any other links to past transgressions?
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:44 PM   #10
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

Well truthfully better to have Chino owe you 40k than Full Tilt Poker right?
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:45 PM   #11
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chinos gonna chino
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:45 PM   #12
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

Has he always been such an *******? The year he got a lot of coverage at the WSOP I thought he looked like such a cool guy .
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:47 PM   #13
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chino gonna....
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:47 PM   #14
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Chino is def scum but it still amazes me how some of u guys will so easily trust someone u just met wit that amount of money. You don't need to do anyone a favor if they ask but I hope u learn from this and get ur money back.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:47 PM   #15
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

how does this guy have the balls to still show his face at a poker tournament/cash game, unbelievable
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:49 PM   #16
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Well truthfully better to have Chino owe you 40k than Full Tilt Poker right?
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:49 PM   #17
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

I just don't see how ppl so easily ship online $ to ppl they don't know, much less one with the rep of Chino Reem. GL OP, my suggestion is to confront him in person.

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Old 08-09-2011, 02:50 PM   #18
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

wonder what the running tally is.

I hope more people like you come forward with their stories
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:50 PM   #19
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Re: Chino Rheem SCUM part two (more scams)

dont know why people do trades to help people out they dont know - its super -ev and even if 1% of the time you get scammed, id rather just look like a tight ass then deal with losing money. I also think there needs to be some kind of repercussions outside of their name being tarnished in the poker community. I mean if the worst thing that comes from stealing 40k is a thread tarnishing your name, I doubt people are going to stop scamming...I'm not one for advocating physical violence, but when you run businesses that aren't bound by legal rules, there needs to be some repercussions. I wonder how the mob would of done had they not hurt people but just slandered their names - man thats intimidating!
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:51 PM   #20
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how does this guy have the balls to still show his face at a poker tournament/cash game, unbelievable
I'm guessing b/c no one will confront him about it/he faces no real retaliation? Ppl like this seem to pick their targets wisely.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:52 PM   #21
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:53 PM   #22
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Well truthfully better to have Chino owe you 40k than Full Tilt Poker right?
lol

1) From what I can tell, Grinder more or less innocent here, not sure he it can be interpreted that he ever vouched for Chino in the original transaction

2) You can sue him, you know. Seems like you've got a pretty solid trail of evidence / admission of the debt.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:55 PM   #23
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Well truthfully better to have Chino owe you 40k than Full Tilt Poker right?
both are worth about what .15c to the $ ?
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:56 PM   #24
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Guy's like the real life worm from rounders. People seem to tolerate him even if they know he's kind of shady. But at one point his friends like grinder and matt savage and whoever elde have to wash their hands of him, you can't keep standing up for a thief and hope that he's going to eventually change and make up for everything.
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Old 08-09-2011, 02:58 PM   #25
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dont know why people do trades to help people out they dont know - its super -ev and even if 1% of the time you get scammed, id rather just look like a tight ass then deal with losing money. I also think there needs to be some kind of repercussions outside of their name being tarnished in the poker community. I mean if the worst thing that comes from stealing 40k is a thread tarnishing your name, I doubt people are going to stop scamming...I'm not one for advocating physical violence, but when you run businesses that aren't bound by legal rules, there needs to be some repercussions. I wonder how the mob would of done had they not hurt people but just slandered their names - man thats intimidating!
He also says that his boy Michael Mizrachi needs the same hook up and tells me, after calling him, that I will be getting a xfer from the grinder on ftp for the both of them.
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