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Old 06-17-2018, 12:24 PM   #1351
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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That's probably because you are quite a bad player but still manage to find worse players in live games because they really really suck. If you tried PS you would get destroyed even harder but that doesn't mean anything on it's own.
Excluding RB, you're claiming it's harder to make money at most stakes on PS, even after all of the anti-reg stuff, than it is at WPN?
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:06 PM   #1352
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

I would wager that Stars cash games are softer than WPN by a longshot.
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:21 PM   #1353
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I would wager that Stars cash games are softer than WPN by a longshot.
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Old 06-17-2018, 06:25 PM   #1354
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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That's probably because you are quite a bad player but still manage to find worse players in live games because they really really suck. If you tried PS you would get destroyed even harder but that doesn't mean anything on it's own.
I think PS MTTs are tougher, at least when deep and getting into the cash, than WPN's are. I don't find the cash games tougher at all. I play lower stakes NLHE, 200/400 and below, and various levels of PLO.
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Old 06-18-2018, 02:26 AM   #1355
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

No one has looked at this jackpots at acr
Same player for same sables or just team up
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Old 06-18-2018, 06:08 AM   #1356
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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I would wager that Stars cash games are softer than WPN by a longshot.
I just assumed this was the case at all stakes besides possibly the highest stakes. Given the much larger traffic, much better bot deterrents, better security overall, and the anti-reg direction I would be surprised if Stars didn't have softer games. I can't play at Stars to confirm so I had to ask.
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Old 06-19-2018, 12:51 PM   #1357
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

wait... so more rake really is better?
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:59 AM   #1358
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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wait... so more rake really is better?
Say you got two tables across the street. One has low rake but is full of pro grinders. The other has **** rake but is full of fish recs that dont care. Which game would you rather be in? So you see, more rake actuallt protects the players.
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:54 PM   #1359
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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Say you got two tables across the street. One has low rake but is full of pro grinders. The other has **** rake but is full of fish recs that dont care. Which game would you rather be in? So you see, more rake actuallt protects the players.
Not by a long shot .... Raising rake generally does not protect players.

1. If a site wants to "protect" losing players, it could create "special" tables with access restricted to losing players only.

Losing players could then choose whether to play at the "special table" or venture out into the general tables. (Of course such a system could still be gamed, but it doesn't impose a higher fee for service indiscriminately.)

2. Alternatively, a site could give better rakeback to losing players than to winning players, if the goalis to protect losing players financially.
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Old 06-21-2018, 02:06 PM   #1360
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2. Alternatively, a site could give better rakeback to losing players than to winning players, if the goalis to protect losing players financially.
Never thought of it that way, makes a lot of sense.
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Old 06-21-2018, 02:31 PM   #1361
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

or just low table caps, pros can still multisite
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Old 06-21-2018, 02:50 PM   #1362
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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2. Alternatively, a site could give better rakeback to losing players than to winning players, if the goalis to protect losing players financially.
Yeah 10% lossback or something to losing players would be great. And table caps and anonymous players would be good too.
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Old 06-21-2018, 03:18 PM   #1363
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Yeah 10% lossback or something to losing players would be great. And table caps and anonymous players would be good too.
No, a rebate on losses is open to direct abuse.
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Old 07-15-2018, 07:08 AM   #1364
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

Just in case you don't know, the player that was "44bars" now plays under the nickname of "dropdeed" and one of his friends "xxxBlackJackxxx" is now "MarioKart54"
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Old 07-16-2018, 05:00 AM   #1365
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CMOE (createmyownenergy) just won the $2100 Million ……..ALSO dropdeed was on FINAL table as well..
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Old 07-16-2018, 03:10 PM   #1366
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

Wow! They must be totally lucky!
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