Annnd he's logged off, so I guess we'll all have to wait in suspense until he comes back.
I'm not sure how it makes sense to someone that we'd leave hundreds, if not thousands, of posts that are critical of WPN in that forum, but that I'd target his one specific post. If it was that damning that we had to remove it, I'd think he would have brought it up before now. But I'm more than happy to try to find it; sadly, our tools when it comes to finding deleted posts are woefully inadequate. We can't search them; we can only see a single line within the thread itself each time a post is deleted. Searching for one person's deleted post in a forum would be much like searching for a needle in a haystack. Hopefully he can provide more info, because I'm genuinely curious.
I was able to find his 3 existing posts, all OPs of different threads, and he had no deleted posts there. Then I searched for his name in other people's posts, in the hopes that his post might have been quoted. That led me to one deleted post, but I don't think it's the one he's referring to:
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I'm really stunned you would even feel good about putting that kind of money on this site. It's literally one of the most sketchy websites i've ever played on. It's why i rather just never play online poker again and just play live.
That was deleted by a WPN forum-only mod.
About posts deleted in the WPN forum in general, I posted this in the ATF thread yesterday:
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Wow, there's been some real silliness posted today. I think there's been enough Thrash370 thrashing, and people really need to just ignore the stuff that's obviously baseless speculation.
I've been down this whole "WPN is deleting criticism1!!1!!!1!" road before, and am really not inclined to go searching again. I did that once before when someone had some specific threads they were claiming posts were deleted from, and when I went back, it was of course untrue/exaggerated - very few posts deleted, and the ones that were appeared to be OT/trolling. It's a lot of work to try and go through and search for individual posts deleted when the search isn't limited to a specific thread or two.
Someone suggested threads have been deleted - that's far easier to search. So when I go through the last 7 pages, which covers the last 4 months, here's what I found that had been deleted:
"I Pity The Fool That Thinks WPN Will Change" by 45bars (2 replies) - definitely a critical thread, but pretty personally targeted and abusive.
"Looking for colluding coaching" by doctorflush (0 replies) - obvious troll thread (admittedly somewhat amusing dark humour)
"Russia's Botroom" by clfst17 (1 reply) - see above
"Only site in history of online poker to not show cards." by Porzingis - this was deleted and the poster banned by a mod from another forum, which indicates he was OTB&Ced for spam of some sort
2 spam threads
2 transfer threads
1 staking thread
2 self-deleted threads
So, I see 3 threads deleted in 4 months deleted by WPN forum mods that were in any way critical of WPN, and I can see arguments for deleting all 3. Certainly not what I'd consider to be a systemic purging of critical threads, especially given all the threads that remain. Dozens and dozens of critical threads, containing thousands of critical posts.
Could they have been deleting a lot of critical posts within existing threads? I suppose so, but given what I found last time I searched a few threads where people had that complaint, and from my observations, I don't think anything too serious was happening in that regard. What I'm sure was happening over the last few weeks, and I saw a bit of this when I checked myself, was some deletions of OT critical posts. For example, WPN makes an announcement (sometimes these were promotional, but not always), and because everyone's pissed with them, they get a half dozen posts completely unrelated to the announcement taking them to task for something that there's already a dozen threads on the front page about. I don't think every thread in their forum had to be about botting, collusion, and the like. And people who were still choosing to play there in spite of all the warnings still want to get the information they're looking for.
So while I'm sure there were some critical posts/threads deleted, it was not nearly the problem some seem to think, and is really just a side issue IMO. As is Thrash370.
