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Old 02-03-2018, 09:52 PM   #1
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Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

There has been major discussion on this for years in their forum and they continue to ignore it at all costs, thoughts?

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Old 02-03-2018, 09:56 PM   #2
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re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

There’s 4 other threads discussing this. Why did you feel the need to make your own?
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:00 PM   #3
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There’s 4 other threads discussing this. Why did you feel the need to make your own?
It's in a bunch of random threads, a few of which buried in the WPN sub-forum and one here with the title being about a player. Seems perfectly reasonable to have it in a title in the biggest sub-forum on 2+2 where eyeballs will see it, ldo.
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:01 PM   #4
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re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

I think the discussion deserves its own thread. Maybe the posts in the other threads should be moved here.
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:02 PM   #5
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re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

There’s three threads at the very top of this sub forum about it...I just hate it when threads clutter the forms when they could easily have avoided starting s new thread
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:09 PM   #6
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re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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There’s three threads at the very top of this sub forum about it...I just hate it when threads clutter the forms when they could easily have avoided starting s new thread
The other threads have nothing to do with this topic, it is just posted there. If you can't understand why something like this needs visibility, not sure what to tell you.
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:09 PM   #7
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re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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There’s three threads at the very top of this sub forum about it...I just hate it when threads clutter the forms when they could easily have avoided starting s new thread
As if the forum is so busy in 2018 that its knocking off some important threads. Theirs 4 day old threads on the front page.
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:12 PM   #8
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The other threads have nothing to do with this topic, it is just posted there. If you can't understand why something like this needs visibility, not sure what to tell you.
I agree it needs visibility, obviously, but there’s a limit.
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:27 PM   #9
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re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

Does anyone know the location listed for CMOE, greenspirit, 44bars and FindTheTruth?

Thanks
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Old 02-03-2018, 10:39 PM   #10
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Does anyone know the location listed for CMOE, greenspirit, 44bars and FindTheTruth?

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No but does this even matter? I have played against a lot of accounts which just have their location name empty. Is acr even forcing you to verify your ID or smt I don't think so?! Specially if u cash out via btc, I think there is no ID verification. Could be wrong though.

After Joey naming 44bars possible multi accounting his 3 wins in the boss serious really do become kind of hilarious someone said he was banned on stars. I don't know why, don't want so spread false rumors, but didn't someone say this might be sixthsense guy? He was banned on stars, again, for multiaccounting / shady stuff. even after he said he payed 100k to get his acc back lol.

The only logic for me is that he now starts multiaccounting on acr. He is a mtt crusher so if he would play multiple accounts in a mtt, chances of him making ft would increase drastically.

Anyways I have no evidence that it's him, but I kind of remember some people talking about who he was and mentioning sixthsense name. Really curious to know if that is true.

No evidence though
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Old 02-03-2018, 11:12 PM   #11
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re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

There is always the possibility that other mods/admins will think differently, but it seems okay to me to carve out this important and timely topic into its own thread.
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Old 02-03-2018, 11:12 PM   #12
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re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

Yeah... wrong on the cashout procedures. ID/Credit Card/ and Utility bill required for cash out.

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No but does this even matter? I have played against a lot of accounts which just have their location name empty. Is acr even forcing you to verify your ID or smt I don't think so?! Specially if u cash out via btc, I think there is no ID verification. Could be wrong though.

After Joey naming 44bars possible multi accounting his 3 wins in the boss serious really do become kind of hilarious someone said he was banned on stars. I don't know why, don't want so spread false rumors, but didn't someone say this might be sixthsense guy? He was banned on stars, again, for multiaccounting / shady stuff. even after he said he payed 100k to get his acc back lol.

The only logic for me is that he now starts multiaccounting on acr. He is a mtt crusher so if he would play multiple accounts in a mtt, chances of him making ft would increase drastically.

Anyways I have no evidence that it's him, but I kind of remember some people talking about who he was and mentioning sixthsense name. Really curious to know if that is true.

No evidence though
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Old 02-03-2018, 11:35 PM   #13
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re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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Yeah... wrong on the cashout procedures. ID/Credit Card/ and Utility bill required for cash out.
If im not mistaken, if someone only deposits via bitcoin they can withdraw via bitcoin without id/utility bill documents.

So basically someone with alot of bitcoin can run x amount of latops on vpns and run a collusion ring from their living room without having to forge documents.

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Old 02-03-2018, 11:42 PM   #14
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re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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it seems okay to me to carve out this important and timely topic into its own thread.
Agree.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:02 AM   #15
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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If im not mistaken, if someone only deposits via bitcoin they can withdraw via bitcoin without id/utility bill documents.

So basically someone with alot of bitcoin can run x amount of latops on vpns and run a collusion ring from their living room without having to forge documents.
At least on the main skins everyone has to verify (ACR,BCP,True, Ya Poker).Some of the smaller skins may have different rules.

The the poster that asked. CMOE and GreenSpirit's accounts say US and 44Bars says from Portugal.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:11 AM   #16
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

Ah, thanks. Joey's video in the description also mentioned FindTheTruth potentially being involved but didn't mention him in the video. Any idea what his link to those other accounts are? Is he sitting the same games often?
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:20 AM   #17
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Ah, thanks. Joey's video in the description also mentioned FindTheTruth potentially being involved but didn't mention him in the video. Any idea what his link to those other accounts are? Is he sitting the same games often?
No idea. All I know about FindTheTruth is that he does some staking and is out of the Chicago area afaik. A few of his players have commented he's not very good at poker, but he seems to do well on WPN. (Was crushing for a bit last year, SS now locked as is CMOE and GreenSpirit)

One thing I've noticed lately is that when I am suspect of an account there is a very high frequency of it being locked on SS. Maybe a coincidence maybe not, but the % is much higher than my normal SSing of whomever is at my table.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:21 AM   #18
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

Bravery is a special and admirable quality for a person to have.

Joey didn't have to make this video, he could just as easily have voted with his feet, played elsewhere on line or live, kept quiet and not spoken out.
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Old 02-04-2018, 12:58 AM   #19
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At least on the main skins everyone has to verify (ACR,BCP,True, Ya Poker).Some of the smaller skins may have different rules.

The the poster that asked. CMOE and GreenSpirit's accounts say US and 44Bars says from Portugal.
i've made a bunch of withdrawals via BTC on both ACR and True and I haven't been asked to send them anything at all to verify
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

did anyone catch joeys hospital wristband in the video @ 11:52 , i thought he was looking alittle rough in the video. kinda thin and eyes bloodshot.
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:11 AM   #21
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Yeah, came down with a bad cold.
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:12 AM   #22
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Run, Joey, run!
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:13 AM   #23
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

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i've made a bunch of withdrawals via BTC on both ACR and True and I haven't been asked to send them anything at all to verify
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If im not mistaken, if someone only deposits via bitcoin they can withdraw via bitcoin without id/utility bill documents.

So basically someone with alot of bitcoin can run x amount of latops on vpns and run a collusion ring from their living room without having to forge documents.
What a massive security flaw.


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did anyone catch joeys hospital wristband in the video @ 11:52 , i thought he was looking alittle rough in the video. kinda thin and eyes bloodshot.
In the other thread he said he has the flu and went to the hospital. Can't really blame him. People are dying out here from this season's flu strain.


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Run, Joey, run!
Who is the mob supposed to be? A collection of WPN forum mods, bot users and colluders? I think the majority agree with what Joey has said. Most of those who don't are likely either ignorant to what's happening in online poker these days or guilty of cheating themselves.

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Old 02-04-2018, 01:31 AM   #24
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

i mean i agree with joey i thought acr had bots for years. i also think ignition / bovada superuses the fast fold games on zone poker . do i have any proof ? no. but i can think it lol.
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Old 02-04-2018, 01:34 AM   #25
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Re: Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

these accounts give me the heebee jeebees

binvladin
bcmclawh
nitwoutborders (or some variation)
christinepoker
44bars
scoopjackson5
createmyownenergy
duuudelove69

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