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Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware? Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

03-17-2018 , 09:36 AM
dude I was serious, no trolling. I said flag, not instantly ban or something. Because yeah, every day online but not online when there's an update? easy game there.
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03-17-2018 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Disappointed the superusing stuff comes up multiple times with not much more than basically "their security is terrible so you can't trust them to investigate superusers". I think the issue only deters from your other points until you have something substantial behind it.

If you're gathering evidence, hopefully it's working. But if you're not, and you don't have any, I think it makes more sense to drop the subject until you have something to back it up with.
+1 to all of this

Maybe he released the evidence to PokerNews?

https://www.facebook.com/pokernewsdo...6240406897265/

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03-17-2018 , 11:29 AM
All the punta cana spam I get I keep expecting to see chase thunda listed as the main event
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03-17-2018 , 11:42 AM
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then the only time they're not online is after an update
this is relevant, we just can't jump directly to super using. also I think a definition of super using is needed. seeing hole cards is one thing seeing the entire runout is another that has not yet been discovered from any? online poker sites yet?

I will attest to groups of players never being around directly before down time, and then instantly being there once back up.

my sample almost half a decade watching with my own eyes, what does that mean IDK
allI do know is it happened at a high percent rate of down time.

I played 20k HUSNG's vs a player group and have them disconnecting zero times.
For the rest of the population at that volume I can't say the same thing

my own warped brain/thought process fine I can accept that

I would also like to add in regards to super using how can would one ever believe ones claims

what sample would be ample to define, I have asked this from many players for years and have never gotten a conclusive answer.

so while "rigtards" are one extreme part of the spectrum(no not autistic) the it has never happened would be on the other side of the spectrum.

I prefer a more middle ground of it could happen,most likely does not happen, but how would I prove it if it did happen. Mix that with all the other items a thinking creature would have to leave it as a possibility though would they not?
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03-17-2018 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by netgod44
this is relevant, we just can't jump directly to super using.
People are implying that their bots are not working due to a change in the program, not that there's a super user issue going on with the latest update and subsequent missing players.
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03-17-2018 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
People are implying that their bots are not working due to a change in the program, not that there's a super user issue going on with the latest update and subsequent missing players.
I am also implying this, I am not just implying this to current events but over the course of multiple years.

I was correlating it to a previous post that had suggested that player groups coming on direct after downtime were super users...unless I had misread the post

Although I tend not to believe that player group is superusing. I am more in the camp of house bots as the explanation for that behavior
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03-17-2018 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lolregs
lolz. there was recent update within last 24 hours. HU tables have no Russians online, and 6max games seem empty of them also...wat a suprise.
There was? What is your client version? (Help menu/Client Version)

Mine is 24.0.
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03-17-2018 , 03:46 PM
Bots probably just staying off as a safety precaution. Probably making sure there's no new anti-bot software before starting again.
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03-17-2018 , 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
well that's interesting. Flag every player that needs a longer time to get online whenever there was an update.
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Originally Posted by lolregs
well yea, same russian 40bb accounts that play identical and are online everyday pulling 8 hour sessions like its nothing, then the only time they're not online is after an or a Joeingram WPN is full of bots VDO is released...then yea bit suspicious and post worthy imo

But ok, you have been playing microstakes donkaments for the past 8 years so ill give you a break, problem solving not ur strong point.
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Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
dude I was serious, no trolling. I said flag, not instantly ban or something. Because yeah, every day online but not online when there's an update? easy game there.


+1 take the high road.
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03-17-2018 , 04:42 PM
Updates generally break multitabling tools such as Table Tamer (table Ninja clone). I personally avoid playing if that's the case as I run too many tables to handle manually.

I'm not saying that's what is happening with the rest of the accounts but also giving perspective for why some might be legitimately skipping a day.
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03-18-2018 , 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Thrash370
Updates generally break multitabling tools such as Table Tamer (table Ninja clone). I personally avoid playing if that's the case as I run too many tables to handle manually.

I'm not saying that's what is happening with the rest of the accounts but also giving perspective for why some might be legitimately skipping a day.
Like you can't play less tables then without TT? yea right you just skip a whole day or more and not play a single hand just bc TT doesn't work... stop shilling for WPN, bro
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03-18-2018 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by coach999
Like you can't play less tables then without TT? yea right you just skip a whole day or more and not play a single hand just bc TT doesn't work... stop shilling for WPN, bro
I've stated previously that I believe there to be bots. Giving perspective on something is different than shilling. Stop showing your intelligence, bro.

Also no I have a life and family I will take a day off rather than a suboptimal grind.
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03-18-2018 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Thrash370
I've stated previously that I believe there to be bots. Giving perspective on something is different than shilling. Stop showing your intelligence, bro.

Also no I have a life and family I will take a day off rather than a suboptimal grind.
You believe there are bots? Are you fckn serious? How about their bot software does not work after an update instead of saying they may be using TT? Are you allowed to say that or is WPN mad if you say so?
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03-18-2018 , 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by coach999
You believe there are bots? Are you fckn serious? How about their bot software does not work after an update instead of saying they may be using TT? Are you allowed to say that or is WPN mad if you say so?
I'm sure this will be deleted but you're special. If you think WPN was like yea let's give Thrash the go ahead to tell everyone that he believes there are bots I want what you're smoking. I speak for myself.

There is definitely a likelihood that bot software gets broken with updates, I never stated to the contrary. You're barking up the wrong tree.
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03-18-2018 , 03:30 PM
Phil may not have time to deal with this PR nightmare he's created, but hes had a good run in the ACR cage event on the first day.

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03-18-2018 , 10:18 PM
Just wanted to chime in... I am Takemychai on ACR... also Omdimchayal on BCP... moved back to Cali and grind Bovada now...

Im a degen with an adderal prescription but I'm not a bot or a cheater...
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03-18-2018 , 11:09 PM
never even seen ur SN's
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03-18-2018 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by deadpeddler4
Just wanted to chime in... I am Takemychai on ACR... also Omdimchayal on BCP... moved back to Cali and grind Bovada now...

Im a degen with an adderal prescription but I'm not a bot or a cheater...
What’s your other 2+2 account ?
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03-19-2018 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Thrash370
I'm sure this will be deleted but you're special. If you think WPN was like yea let's give Thrash the go ahead to tell everyone that he believes there are bots I want what you're smoking. I speak for myself.

There is definitely a likelihood that bot software gets broken with updates, I never stated to the contrary. You're barking up the wrong tree.
Thrash is a shill for the site. He deleted everyone of my threads calling me a rigtard when I commented on suspicious play in the past and told me to post in BBV. He also claimed to me he had no financial interest in the company when it turns out he is a huge affiliate for the site. Would not trust a word he says
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03-19-2018 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RevengeoftheDonks
Thrash is a shill for the site. He deleted everyone of my threads calling me a rigtard when I commented on suspicious play in the past and told me to post in BBV. He also claimed to me he had no financial interest in the company when it turns out he is a huge affiliate for the site. Would not trust a word he says
Were they all as good as this one?

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ow-ev-1693377/
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03-19-2018 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hAmThEkIlLeR
Phil may not have time to deal with this PR nightmare he's created, but hes had a good run in the ACR cage event on the first day.

Phil won’t respond to my calls. I think he’s intimidated. Unlucky for him, thunder strikes in all countries.
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03-19-2018 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Trooper
Phil won’t respond to my calls. I think he’s intimidated. Unlucky for him, thunder strikes in all countries.
Oh Yeah !!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rTzJIxBHKc

that must be it .... he's intimidated !!!!! or

..... maybe you look like some guy who likes to post a persona where he channels Randy Savage, gets to wear blonde wigs, and dress in pink chinos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klGRVTTntoI

Though entertaining, at least.
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03-19-2018 , 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
Oh Yeah !!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rTzJIxBHKc

that must be it .... he's intimidated !!!!! or

..... maybe you look like some guy who likes to post a persona where he channels Randy Savage, gets to wear blonde wigs, and dress in pink chinos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klGRVTTntoI

Though entertaining, at least.
Phil would be a 20-1 dog against Chase

Take your bet
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03-19-2018 , 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Were they all as good as this one?

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ow-ev-1693377/
Linking to a thread where solid regulars are running consistently way under EV is rigtard status? The thread I linked was not Some BBV thread where people claim online poker is rigged and that is why I can't win! It was a thread in midstakes of people who have won on every other site and still won on ACR but were winning much less than expected. Like how you glossed over the fact the guy flat out lied about be financially linked to the site. But your sarcasm is pretty hilarious I must admit!
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03-19-2018 , 04:22 PM
Ya I'm surprised that thread was closed, only thing I can guess is the mods didn't read the original thread. Once see the og thread and then learn about mass botting it makes sense that the collusion and card removal are ****ing over normal players.
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