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Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware? Chicago Joey accuses WPN (ACR) of massive botting and cheating, beware?

05-10-2019 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DonWon
$25k payout means that the botters have stolen more than that. There are some other bots that only paid about $2500 total.
They paid 175k for FoxRox as a marketing/publicity stunt. This account was only up 36k before rakeback. I find it hard to believe that IbetUfoldt took anywhere near 25k out of ecosystem as well given how few hands this account played. On the one hand some accounts are being paid out far more than they could have affected real players, on the other hand some accounts like full5speed that may have taken over 1 million dollars out of ecosystem are being paid out nothing?
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05-10-2019 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by HandOfGod666
They paid 175k for FoxRox as a marketing/publicity stunt. This account was only up 36k before rakeback. I find it hard to believe that IbetUfoldt took anywhere near 25k out of ecosystem as well given how few hands this account played. On the one hand some accounts are being paid out far more than they could have affected real players, on the other hand some accounts like full5speed that may have taken over 1 million dollars out of ecosystem are being paid out nothing?
So, they are arbitrarily distributing money without quantifying who deserves what amount, while blasting people's inboxes with minuscule amounts updating them about how many more bots they've gotten rid of?
Seems like shooting from the hip trying to save face while making it explicitly clear that they really dont have to do anything and we should be grateful they are even policing such an issue.
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05-10-2019 , 06:57 PM
the refund policy is kinda BS IMO
what about the people who suffered bankroll ruin from this
so WPN does not want to face BRR well I say who cares at this point
This refund is BS micro stakes refunds..where do micro stakes get ya...raked!

ESP when they were told by many for years upon years upon years!...all with chuckles and snide BS...his answer well hey at least we pay out..yea to F'n bots

I play a guy heads up SNG he is a bot using unfair game play ummmm and I get put on the Friggn tier system of BS....marlboro ran a better offer with miles then this BS while killing customers at least pops got a dam fishing pole or tackle box..that sexy rawhide lined coat

This is save face promo spamming BS well after the fact you want my respect CALL ME PHIL pick up the F'n phone and call ME...ya know the guy who told you for YEARS about this all the while treated like SHIIIT by every support person there..except Dave miller

the person who got CRUSHED by the BOTS in HUSNGS the person that played them all day for years...F..you PHIL pick up the phone and admit you were wrong, you should have listened, you will refund ME what it is truly owed and apologize for the BS I dealt with..after I shilled the shiiit out of this site for you after black BSDAY...but no send me fractions of pennies as a shill spam BS fest and keep the cycle of you taking my orifices still
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05-10-2019 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by HandOfGod666
They paid 175k for FoxRox as a marketing/publicity stunt. This account was only up 36k before rakeback. I find it hard to believe that IbetUfoldt took anywhere near 25k out of ecosystem as well given how few hands this account played. On the one hand some accounts are being paid out far more than they could have affected real players, on the other hand some accounts like full5speed that may have taken over 1 million dollars out of ecosystem are being paid out nothing?
Why are some not paid $25k?

AntiBiber Germany 0.63% $25,000.00 May 6, 2019 MTTs Played
May 6, 2019 All Refunds
Astorath Germany 0.45% $25,000.00 May 6, 2019 MTTs Played
May 6, 2019 All Refunds
firefeet Latvia 0.10% $7,373.62 May 6, 2019 MTTs Played
May 6, 2019 All Refunds
bombur Germany 1.30% $25,000.00 May 6, 2019 MTTs Played
May 6, 2019 All Refunds
GinSling Russia 0.77% $25,000.00 May 6, 2019 MTTs Played
May 6, 2019 All Refunds
Kick720 United States 0.05% $2,496.66 May 6, 2019 MTTs Played
May 6, 2019 All Refunds
lawyer77 Belarus 1.10% $25,000.00 May 6, 2019 MTTs Played
May 6, 2019 All Refunds
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05-10-2019 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by netgod44
the refund policy is kinda BS IMO
what about the people who suffered bankroll ruin from this
so WPN does not want to face BRR well I say who cares at this point
This refund is BS micro stakes refunds..where do micro stakes get ya...raked!

ESP when they were told by many for years upon years upon years!...all with chuckles and snide BS...his answer well hey at least we pay out..yea to F'n bots

I play a guy heads up SNG he is a bot using unfair game play ummmm and I get put on the Friggn tier system of BS....marlboro ran a better offer with miles then this BS while killing customers at least pops got a dam fishing pole or tackle box..that sexy rawhide lined coat

This is save face promo spamming BS well after the fact you want my respect CALL ME PHIL pick up the F'n phone and call ME...ya know the guy who told you for YEARS about this all the while treated like SHIIIT by every support person there..except Dave miller

the person who got CRUSHED by the BOTS in HUSNGS the person that played them all day for years...F..you PHIL pick up the phone and admit you were wrong, you should have listened, you will refund ME what it is truly owed and apologize for the BS I dealt with..after I shilled the shiiit out of this site for you after black BSDAY...but no send me fractions of pennies as a shill spam BS fest and keep the cycle of you taking my orifices still
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05-10-2019 , 08:09 PM
In my No No spot..mommy said nobody touches me there
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05-12-2019 , 10:21 PM
So whats stopping these ppl/bots returning under new accounts/IPs? There needs to be some serious effort put into bot detection moving forward.

I have played so many hands vs these accounts. Its basically a list of the whos who of MTT 'regs' im sure there is still many out there too that have similar stats / styles, never can be too sure playing online these days
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05-22-2019 , 03:13 PM
I guess we should worry more when they decide that "anonymous" play is the way to go.

I would be completely shocked if IGN wasn't 50%+ bots.
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05-22-2019 , 03:29 PM
I actually stayed despite the bots, and have been refunded a decent amount given the micro stakes i was playing. I had a decent winrate, so all these bots were pretty easy to play against.

But after that interview with the CEO, I'm out.
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05-22-2019 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by wowsooooted
So whats stopping these ppl/bots returning under new accounts/IPs? There needs to be some serious effort put into bot detection moving forward.

I have played so many hands vs these accounts. Its basically a list of the whos who of MTT 'regs' im sure there is still many out there too that have similar stats / styles, never can be too sure playing online these days
On his recent podcast with Joey, Phil Nagy said that this new client would assist WPN with bot detection. He's said a lot of **** though, so we'll see if it actually helps get rid of them or not in the weeks and months to come. I'm glad they've been transparent with banned bot accounts even if the refund system isn't good, and this is coming from someone who lost much, much more to an account that was banned than the 2 1/2 BI's I received from the recent bans that occurred on the 15th.
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