Having Charlie Carrell as a Brit is more embarassing to me than Nigel Farage.

https://epiphany77.com/spiritual-masterclass/

Quite funny to see how this enlightened person clearly isn't in control of her own weight.

Those excerpts read like something from a Game of Thrones spin off.

This x100. Placebo effect is absolutely real, and even works in some modern medicines that don't physically work in the individual. If this is something that hurts no one and can help someone be more successful and fulfilled in their lives, there is no reason to shun it or feel disdain for it. It won't work for many, but the same can be said for a lot of medications, especially ones related to brain chemistry issues, often times many have to be tried.

I could understand perhaps being angry at an individual, if they have knowingly made everything up and their intention is monetary and they aren't "spiritual" in the sense they don't actively believe what they claim, but that isn't all of them, some are genuine people who do really believe angels and lights heal people, and even though it is not true.. they would actually be right, just not for the reason they believe. Placebo effect will kick in for a small subset of people, and they end up better off. The majority of the human population believes in angels/demons/ghosts ect... and as crazy as those ideas are they are still functioning people and not mentally insane.

Placebo works. Most people know that. But when Charlie is making a masterclass, with a woman who meets up regularly with Fuzzywuzzy and Sosimuku, and charging money for it, then someone is getting conned, or someone has mental health issues and needs help.

Fedor is one of those people is such a genius he probably can't explain his thought processes. Carrel is just mentally ill.

Seems like a fair point. Assuming it's true. It's interesting how askew one is versus the other selling a limited image.

This is a mental game course mostly applying to poker.

I haven't seen it but I don't think it's fair to single out this course and bash on it just because it has the word "spiritual" in the title. The listed details seem ok enough: -

- Energy, health, and self-love while playing
- Balancing fun, passion, and business
- Guided meditations and thought techniques
- Toxicity and living life online - !!!
- Advice for potential pro players

Nothing says to me that they will try convince me of super natural things.

In defence of this course it's $650 for the mental game one at Raise Your Edge (bearing in mind Fedor Holz comes across as a "spiritual" guy as well) and $1000 for the one over at RIO.

This one is less than $100.

Are we really saying that this course is the one that's a scam?

(I'm not implying any course is a scam because I don't know the quality of them) I think online courses will never be a 100% success because people think and behave in certain ways for A LOT of reasons. There's no way every topic will be covered and personalised to help every individual improve their game.

So in my opinion if you're going to lay down a good lump of change to improve your mental game, go for a 1 on 1 session.

Actually the fact that it's named 'spiritual' makes it obvious is not a scam. People have different beliefs how to best deal with life, stress, jobs, love etc.

I find it more troubling for example some parts of neuroscience and the marketing of psychology as scientific facts. When many have no scientific proof with reproducible results and are based on consensus of opinions.

The potential scam here is not the whole masterclass but the claim by Kathy that she is gifted and can commune with FuzzyWuzzy. It would be entirely possible that a part of this course is pure fabrication and a scam. Just because it has the spiritual tag does not exempt it from logical scrutiny.

Are you saying someone like Freund's opinion is not as valid as someone like Kathy's in your second paragraph?

The issue with this argument is that how can you separate a con artist from someone that actually believe in what he preaches.

I find this slightly amusing that everyone in poker create their own "masterclass", whats the deal with copying a name from a trademarked company. It seems dubious to me.

Christians believe devotion to God can help them in their lives, no less silly than this stuff. If anything it’s more silly because at least they have mindfulness, meditation, and time management principles thrown in there. Actually between paying for this class and paying collection at a church, this class is more bang for your buck and might help you get laid with a new age hippy type.

Somewhere Sam Chauhan nods appreciatively.

Ive seen his instagram videos only but its enough to conclude with 100% certainty that he has a serious mental illness of some kind

would be shocked if hes still beating 500z at his current state

He’s still stuck at 10nl in his bankroll challenge.
Guy would be a legit whale at 500z.

The Medicine Show tradition has been around for over 150 years, bilking those looking for help or comfort. This fits the bill.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9448561.html

Kenneth Copeland blows coronavirus away ..... watch the imbedded clip in the news story.

The thing that bothers me the most is he's using the default wordpress favicon on his website!!!

I have had personal experience working with both of them that radically changed my life.

But say all this “woo woo” stuff is nonsense it doesn’t stop it from being useful.

(it's just really hard to prove that it does "work" because what the hell criteria are you supposed to use for X thing "working")

That being said..

Who the fxck are you guys to ***** on someone’s life / profession / beliefs?!

They’re literally trying to help you fools and created a project that could potentially benefit you and get you more in touch with yourselves and you have the nerve to make fun of that??

What high horse are you riding on? Ask yourselves.. does it make you feel better to put someone else down? And if that’s the case then darlings you are precisely the type of person who could do with some healing / reconnecting to your inner world.

Hi Kathy

EDIT: On reflection, Hi Charlie.

Hi Charlie

You only have to watch some hands they've played to realise they're both complete ****wits.

Jim Jones and the members of the Peoples Temple probably said something similar back in the 50s-70s.

Eh, seem fine. Seem mostly just some meditation stuff and random other stuff, nothing to hate about.