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08-03-2020 , 07:14 AM
Charlie Carrel it selling a spiritual masterclass for $110 on his website.

It is made by himself and kathy crosswell, who says she has the ability to connect to angel beeings and heal by laying the hand on.

She says she helps people to "understand their energy and to help them to walk their life in a spiritual way connected to their Divine I AM"

(All this you can find on carrells website.)

Carrel reffers to her as her guru.


I think this is dangerous, but couldnt find anything about this on twoplustwo or elsewere.

Has anyone bought the course and cann tell what it contains?
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08-03-2020 , 07:48 AM
It's difficult to compute how someone can be such a great critical thinker, to the extent that they win millions in no time playing poker, and then believe they can be healed by some whack job laying their hands on you.

I think somewhere along the way he took too many drugs, or had a concussion, because he is not too far from being certifiably mentally deranged.

That said, I'm the type of dude who thinks pseudo scientists, psychics and the like should all be arrested and tried as criminals or put in hospitals somewhere. A lot of them are straight up con artists.
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08-03-2020 , 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
It's difficult to compute how someone can be such a great critical thinker, to the extent that they win millions in no time playing poker, and then believe they can be healed by some whack job laying their hands on you.

I think somewhere along the way he took too many drugs, or had a concussion, because he is not too far from being certifiably mentally deranged.

That said, I'm the type of dude who thinks pseudo scientists, psychics and the like should all be arrested and tried as criminals or put in hospitals somewhere. A lot of them are straight up con artists.
I think you missed the part where she writes that she spent ages watching the caterpillars with their many legs. Because that shows me she obviously knows what she's talking about.
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08-03-2020 , 08:04 AM
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I grew up loving playing outside and making up games with my imagination.
I don't think she stopped making games with her imagination.

On the other hand, so information provided by this masterclass (judging solely from content points) might be beneficial, as meditation, and clarity of mind does help with improvement of the game/life/etc. It is still not a defined science, so the biggest effect could be just a placebo. But, even in that case, if it improves your game, it is a +ev investment.
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08-03-2020 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
That said, I'm the type of dude who thinks pseudo scientists, psychics and the like should all be arrested and tried as criminals or put in hospitals somewhere. A lot of them are straight up con artists.
Couldn't ****in agree more.
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08-03-2020 , 09:46 AM
Today I learned that being a philanthropist can include selling an online class in spirituality for $110 a time!
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08-03-2020 , 10:22 AM
bro, imagine this guy in the war, like ww2 or something... I think he'd be one of the woman staying home and making cookies.
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08-03-2020 , 10:33 AM
okay alpha
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08-03-2020 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
It's difficult to compute how someone can be such a great critical thinker, to the extent that they win millions in no time playing poker, and then believe they can be healed by some whack job laying their hands on you.
I think these 2 might actually connected, winning a lot of money at a very young age is bound to affect your personal development. Most people simply become degens (happened to me as well when I turned pro at 21, minus "winning a lot of money" part), but some seem to react differently. Charlie seems to view himself as a sort of spiritual guru, and Fedor, who seemed really grounded and humble when he first came up, clearly suffers from delusions of grandure and considers himself some sort of business genius.
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08-03-2020 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Tutejszy
I think these 2 might actually connected, winning a lot of money at a very young age is bound to affect your personal development. Most people simply become degens (happened to me as well when I turned pro at 21, minus "winning a lot of money" part), but some seem to react differently. Charlie seems to view himself as a sort of spiritual guru, and Fedor, who seemed really grounded and humble when he first came up, clearly suffers from delusions of grandure and considers himself some sort of business genius.
Yes he could be at the holier than holy stage. Hopefully he wisens up.
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08-03-2020 , 11:06 AM
I looked over the page and the video listings on Vimeo, seems like there's a fair amount of focus on meditation and life balance, which are certainly important things for anyone. There was a lot of **** about "chakras" and other woo woo nonsense though, so maybe it's half useful information and half garbage. Still a huge waste of money either way

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bro, imagine this guy in the war, like ww2 or something... I think he'd be one of the woman staying home and making cookies.
The fact that he's "unmanly" is one aspect of his being that deserves the least criticism

And idk if you remember your history classes, but during WW2 most women were not "staying home and making cookies" lol
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08-03-2020 , 11:23 AM
I just finished this masterclass, walked into my backyard and my picnic table started levitating.

10/10, would recommend.
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08-03-2020 , 11:33 AM
meh, so long as the course itself isn't being sold on fraudulent claims of faith healing or shungite rocks or w/e bs I don't have an issue.

better value to be had here though, imo:

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08-03-2020 , 11:43 AM
this is what happens when you stray from the GTO path, first you're innocently making some non standard exploitative lines and before you know it you're trying to connect with your inner spiritual chakrahs while fondling energy beads and giving all your money to someone that claims they can talk to goats
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08-03-2020 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Clayton
this is what happens when you stray from the GTO path, first you're innocently making some non standard exploitative lines and before you know it you're trying to connect with your inner spiritual chakrahs while fondling energy beads and giving all your money to someone that claims they can talk to goats
hahahahah, this indeed, Doug needs to bring back his poker videos there are too many great things to hit right now.
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08-03-2020 , 01:10 PM
Don't know about his spiritual masterclass, but his poker masterclass is the most worthless piece of **** ever created
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08-03-2020 , 01:43 PM
GTO : Mainstream Science.
Exploitative play: Alternative healers

In his eyes all the mathematical minded people are "wrong" with their disdain for exploitative poker. So accordingly they must also be wrong in their disdain for alternative healers. + lots of psychedelics clouded his mind.

I believe it can be open for debate if these sort of things have value. Most pseudoscientific practices are "evolutionary winners" meaning that they are still around after a long time and if they had 0 value people could have stopped doing these things long times ago but they didnt hence there is probably some value in there. (And burden of proof is on those who claim it does not) Even if what she is saying is complete nonsense their could be placebo effect or it could satisfy the need for emotional connection which makes you feel better. It becomes dangerous when they are claiming they can be an alternative treatment in case of serious medical issues.
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08-03-2020 , 02:14 PM
Charlie teaches the most annoying idiot on YouTube

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08-03-2020 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by icoon
GTO : Mainstream Science.
Exploitative play: Alternative healers

In his eyes all the mathematical minded people are "wrong" with their disdain for exploitative poker. So accordingly they must also be wrong in their disdain for alternative healers. + lots of psychedelics clouded his mind.

I believe it can be open for debate if these sort of things have value. Most pseudoscientific practices are "evolutionary winners" meaning that they are still around after a long time and if they had 0 value people could have stopped doing these things long times ago but they didnt hence there is probably some value in there. (And burden of proof is on those who claim it does not) Even if what she is saying is complete nonsense their could be placebo effect or it could satisfy the need for emotional connection which makes you feel better. It becomes dangerous when they are claiming they can be an alternative treatment in case of serious medical issues.
You cannot call it an evolutionary winner simply because it persisted. Traditional Chinese medicine is mostly proven as bollocks yet it persists. Only right now is the shift happening at pace in China and the unfit practices will not survive in the end. It will not win a god damn thing and it is absolutely not evolving.

Also, Hitchen's said 'What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence' and I strongly agree.
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08-03-2020 , 03:08 PM
If a wacky, out-there process is working for you, then do it. Placebo effect has been measured and we know some of the mechanisms behind it, so if crystal stone therapy helps you in anyway continue to do it.
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08-03-2020 , 03:19 PM
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bro, imagine this guy in the war, like ww2 or something... I think he'd be one of the woman staying home and making cookies.
bro, there's currently a spiritual energy war going on and he's on the frontlines for the good guys
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08-03-2020 , 03:32 PM
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bro, there's currently a spiritual energy war going on and he's on the frontlines for the good guys
I'm not too skeptical that he's a good guy, but I don't think you'd win many spiritual wars with these mercenaries on the frontlines.
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08-03-2020 , 04:16 PM
Hmmmm some interesting excerpts from Kathy's site:

'During these early childhood years I was often visited by Spirit and as I was not yet knowledgeable about my gifts, I was very scared! I know that for most of my childhood and teen years I used to sleep completely covered by my bed clothes, apart from my nose, so that the Spirit who climbed the stairs every night and walked into my bedroom to look out the window would not see me! If only I knew what I know today!'

'Then over time as my discilpine grew, along with my knowledge and understanding Sosimuku stepped aside for me to work with Wywyvsil. A being of such purity who teaches the angelic beings in the inner planes and guides all sentient beings from this planet and beyond to take all the necessary steps to ascension. I have worked in harmony with Wywyvsil and Our Lady of the Light for so many years now, bringing messages from Mother and Father God and the angelic realm for all who wish to hear. It is with this guidance that I decided to walk through the Dharmic Gateway to become a Spiritual Author and to work in service of the light.'

Makes perfect sense!

Spoiler:
Where do I sign?
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08-03-2020 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnCleese
It's difficult to compute how someone can be such a great critical thinker, to the extent that they win millions in no time playing poker, and then believe they can be healed by some whack job laying their hands on you.
Roasted
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08-03-2020 , 04:48 PM
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bro, imagine this guy in the war, like ww2 or something... I think he'd be one of the woman staying home and making cookies.
ok go kill some babies ****ing *******
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